Man and Dinosaur Co-existence
"He sets up his tail like a cypress; and his nerves are wrapped together. His sides are sides of brass; and his backbone is as cast iron. This is the chief of the creation of the Lord; made to be played with by his angels".. Book of Job, from the Septuagint (Greek version of the Bible), 250 B.C.
Why Contemporaneous Man and Dinosaur Matters
(Photo:This apparent Plesiosaur specimen washed ashore in Monterey Bay, California in 1925. It sported a twenty foot or so long neck and some witnesses described a number of legs on the creature. Are Plesiosaurs still living in the Pacific Ocean?)
"We now come to perhaps the most intriguing description of them all, given by one of the most scientifically competent of them all. Mind the reader, not most competent, but one of the most competent. His name was E.L. Wallace, a man who served twice as president of the Natural History Society of British Columbia. He had the following to say about the animal:
"My examination of the monster was quite thorough. I felt in its mouth and found it had no teeth. Its head is large and its neck fully twenty feet long. The body is weak and the tail is only three feet in length from the end of the backbone. These facts do away with the whale theory, as the backbone of a whale is far larger than any bone in this animal. Again, its tail is too weak for an animal of the deep and does away with that last version.
"With a bill like it possesses, it must have lived on herbage . . . I would call it a type of plesiosaurus."
A stunning conclusion, no doubt. Later, Mr. Wallace offered the theory that the monster may have been preserved in a glacier for millions of years, finally being released by the gradual melting of ice, eventually ending up cast upon the shore in Monterey Bay."....TrueAuthority.com
Within the man/dino controversy there exists at least three distinct groups;1)Creationists who (for religious reasons- Christianity) would like proof that man and dinosaurs co-existed because it would support the Biblical view of creation,2)Scientists, who (for religious reasons: Evolution) do not want to see any proof of man/dinosaur coexistence because it would do radical damage to the theory and 3)Objective scientists who for scientific reasons want to know what the facts actually are.
(Photo:right, This approximately 50 foot long creature washed ashore in Situate Harbor, Massachusetts during the night of November 16, 1970 )
This third group is probably the smallest, and is more likely to include members of the first group than of the second. "In 1983 D.H. Milne and S. Schafersman wrote in Journal of Geological Education (p.lll) about the reports of finding human prints and dinosaur prints together.
They stated: "Such an occurrence would seriously disrupt conventional interpretations of biological and geological history and would support the doctrines of creationism and catastrophism."
(Photo: This set of pictures is of a dead creature caught off the coast of New Zealand in 1977 by a Japanese Fishing boat the Zuiyo Maru;32 feet long weighing two tons.)
A detailed drawing and samples were taken of the creature by a "marine biologist" on board.
He did not believe the animal to be a decomposing basking shark as the evol/materialists currently dismiss the find as..
To be fair, some creationists have come around to the idea that the Zuiyo Maru creature was in fact a basking shark. Here at s8int.com, we can't say for sure exactly what the creature was though we are persuaded by the eyewitness testimony of the "marine biologist" on board and other data. Still, just because skeptics think that every dead, mysterious sea creature is a basking shark doesn't mean that they aren't occasionally correct :0). Here are several sites that discuss the evidence that the creature was in fact, a plesiosaur. Bowden .. www.gennet.org ..Zuiyo Maru Creature; A Marine Tetrapod, by John Goertzen )
Evolutionary Skeptics have actually set their own stage for the importance of the Paluxy River and other sites which provide evidence for man and dinosaur co-existence.
For example, on the evening of March 16, 1984, Dr. Duane Gish and Dr. Ernst Mayer debated in Evansville, Indiana. In that debate Dr. Mayer, the evolutionist, said, "creationists have stated that humans and dinosaurs were contemporaries in time...Were this momentous statement true the names of its discoverers would thunder down the corridors of time as individuals who made one of the most outstanding discoveries of the twentieth century." --Dr. Carl Baugh's Doctoral Dissertation
"RICHARD DAWKINS, Oxford, an evolutionist, "If a single, well verified mammal skull were to turn up in 500 million year old rocks, our whole modern theory of evolution would be utterly destroyed.
Incidentally, this is a sufficient answer to the canard, put about by creationist and their journalistic fellow travelers, that the whole theory of evolution is an 'unfalsifiable' tautology.
Ironically, it is also the reason why creationist are so keen on the fake human footprints, which were carved during the depression to fool tourist, in the dinosaur beds of Texas," THE BLIND WATCHMAKER, 1986, p.225
(Photo: strange animal in tv news video caught in a trap in San Antonio in 1996 by a rancher. Taken to university and...)
So, as you can see, there is much at stake here. As I was growing up, I would ask my mother, who was and is a Christian about dinosaurs. (Dinosaur is a term that was not even created until the mid-1800's)
Not realizing that there was evidence in the Bible concerning dinosaurs and that there was scientific data which has been suppressed concerning man and dinosaurs; she supposed that God had simply placed dinosaur bones in the earth when he created it. Her faith was not damaged by materialism and its influence; in fact, she and I probably had to depend more on our faith.
Quite a few Christians feel this same strain. They are constantly assaulted with "scientific data" which seems to support evolutionary theory,and to challenge their beliefs; a world in which evolution is taught as fact and our faith is thought to be the myth.
Notwithstanding all the evidence against evolution, what many Christians do not see and evolutionist certainly don't see is that evolution is in fact a religion itself, based on faith as much as Christianity is.
In fact, more faith is required to maintain that belief because God has left plenty of evidence concerning Himself, but evolutionists have trained themselves to believe in spite of contrary evidence.
Yes, Dinosaurs Are Mentioned in the Bible
It would be puzzling indeed if the Bible did not mention what we call dinosaurs. It does mention them, however, perhaps not as we would expect. The Bible refers to various animals that we would call dinosaurs as; dragons, sea monsters, flying serpents, leviathan and behemoth, to name a few. The term "dinosaur" was "invented" by Richard Owen, a creationist, in 1842 to describe a class of very large reptile fossils that were being discovered. It means, "terrible-lizard".
If men had witnessed and described these same animals in the past, obviously, they would not have used the term "dinosaur". Notice this piece on the right from the first century Roman mosaic known as the Nile Mosaic. The animal being hunted was identified on the mosaic itself as a "crocodile-leopard". We might call it a dinosaur today. It might have been called a serpent, a dragon or a "crocodile-leopard" in ancient cultures of the past-and in the Bible. More about the Nile Mosaic and the "crocodile-leopard" here.
Is there any animal in the Bible that is as thoroughly described as the leviathan and the behemoth, i.e., the Dinosaur, in Job 39 & 40? See Right column)
I doubt that there are, but that's not the only place in the Bible where they are mentioned. If you're looking for dinosaurs in the Bible; he who has ears, let him hear.
Man and dino co-existence would extend the timeline for man back 150 million years in "mystical materialistic time". This would prove devasting to that religion although I believe they would simply make radical adjustments.
At one time, there was a theory known as Spontaneous Generation, which supposed that mice and other vermin were spontaneously generated from old rags and garbage etc..
That theory has long been disproved by science itself---or has it. Evolutionists and materialists ultimately have to depend on virtually that exact same theory to explain how life came into existence from non-life, which violates everything we know about biology.
Fossil Dinosaur Prints Together with Human Prints
This photo from the Interactive Bible Site, shows a series of 14 left, right footprints with three- toed dinosaur tracks intersecting at 30 degrees.
"Believe it or not, dinosaur footprints, and the footprints of man, are found in the same strata, in the very same formation, in some cases only 18 inches apart, at a geological dig in Glen Rose, Texas, called the Paluxy River Bed. The ancient footprints of "man" at the site are found to be evenly spaced, and go under overhanging shale formations, continuing under the formations, and have been excavated.
Though the dino tracks (in the Paluxy River Bed in Glen Rose, Texas, for instance) are real, perhaps the human prints were later 'clever carvings' by Indians (who must have gotten around other states a lot).
Recent research, however, has shown that they CONTINUE under shale bulldozed away, and paleontologists like Dr. Camp of the University of California and Dr. G. Wescott of Ypsilanti, Michigan, have pronounced them genuine.
Scores of other similar finds have come in: human skulls in the Pliocene strata; pollen and anthropods in Pre-Cambrian layers; even pictographs of a dinosaur among other animals on ancient canyon walls, which would knock some 70 million years out of the geologic column" (Acts, p.15, June 1996).
More information regarding the Paluxy river site can be found here:The Interactive Bible