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Despite Coelacanth Does the Evolutionary Dogma Re Man and Dinosaur Remain Unshaken?
Or, Do Those Dogon Antique Dinosaurs of West Africa Prove Science is Myth-Staken

Church of Darwin, Crypto, Dinosaurs in Literature, s8int.com, Science, Sophistication of Ancestors, Unexplained Artifact | Posted by Chris Parker
Feb 13 2013


Photo:Antique Dogon People’s Sculpture at the Metropolitan Museum of Art;Details and ID comparisons below.

The coelacanth is a species of fish which had been thought by evolutionists to have evolved 400 million years ago (before the dinosaurs) and to have become extinct 80 million years ago. That was until living specimens began to be found in 1938.

Question; what percentage wrong were evolutionary scientists about Coelacanth? I mean if you believed that they were a magical fish that would take you direct to Atlantis-on their backs if you said the secret word, you would be wrong- but really not that much more wrong than evolutionists had been. They believed up until 1938 that coelacanth walked on the sea bed using its two pairs of double fins, and that it represented a transitional form between land and sea creatures.

Shockingly for some, the living coelacanths discovered then and since look just like their fossils. Thus, evolutionists who discovered that they were off 80 million years in terms of extinction had to face the prospect of also being off 400 million years in terms of evolution. In 1938 it became known that there were no coelacanth experts but in a way one could understand their mistake; the coelocanth is all pre-historicky looking.



Similarly, there are no dinosaur experts either. No one really knows what they looked like. Many if not most ideas about them have already been proved wrong or have experienced “turbulence”. Species and types merge and disappear or are it almost seems randomly moved over to another tree or up and down said evolutionary tree.

Are they warm blooded or cold blooded? Covered with feathers? Last year science suggested that they have overestimated the size of some dinosaurs by 33% to 50%. A number of species of dinosaurs completely disappeared last year when it was decided that some individuals were merely juvenile versions of another type of dinosaur.

Paleontologists are famous for naming essentially the same dinosaur found in various locales and respective continents the ME-o-saurus (“ME” being the name of each discoverer). Science tells us that dinosaurs became extinct 65 million years ago but I’m afraid that the historical data tells us otherwise. We’ll take a quick peek at a few artifacts from West Africa (some previously seen here) to see if its credible to believe that man and dinosaur never coexisted.

The Dogon Peoples

“The Bandiagara Cliffs The Dogon are an ethnic group living in the central plateau region of the country of Mali, in the West of the Continent of Africa, south of the Niger bend, near the city of Bandiagara, in the Mopti region. The population numbers between 400,000 and 800,000[1] The Dogon are best known for their religious traditions, their mask dances, wooden sculpture and their architecture…….


The principal Dogon area is bisected by the Bandiagara Escarpment, a sandstone cliff of up to 500m (1,640 ft) high, stretching about 150 km (90 miles). To the southeast of the cliff, the sandy Séno-Gondo Plains are found, and northwest of the cliff are the Bandiagara Highlands. Historically, Dogon villages were established in the Bandiagara area in consequence of the Dogon people’s collective refusal to convert to Islam a thousand years ago.

Dogon insecurity in the face of these historical pressures caused them to locate their villages in defensible positions along the walls of the escarpment. The other factor influencing their choice of settlement location is water. The Niger River is nearby and in the sandstone rock, a rivulet runs at the foot of the cliff at the lowest point of the area during the wet season.


Dogon art is primarily sculpture. Dogon art revolves around religious values, ideals, and freedoms (Laude, 19). Dogon sculptures are not made to be seen publicly, and are commonly hidden from the public eye within the houses of families, sanctuaries, or kept with the Hogon (Laude, 20). The importance of secrecy is due to the symbolic meaning behind the pieces and the process by which they are made.

Themes found throughout Dogon sculpture consist of figures with raised arms, superimposed bearded figures, horsemen, stools with caryatids, women with children, figures covering their faces, women grinding pearl millet, women bearing vessels on their heads, donkeys bearing cups, musicians, dogs, quadruped-shaped troughs or benches, figures bending from the waist, mirror-images, aproned figures, and standing figures (Laude, 46-52). Signs of other contacts and origins are evident in Dogon art. The Dogon people were not the first inhabitants of the cliffs of Bandiagara. Influence from Tellem art is evident in Dogon art because of its rectilinear designs (Laude, 24).”..Wikipedia

Dogon Zoomorphic Head


Time Period’ 1800-early 1900’s. The Dogon Peoples. Mali Dimensions:
H x W: 8 x 1in. (20.3 x 2.5cm) Wood and Iron
The Metropolitan Museum of Art, The Bryce Holcombe Collection of African Decorative Art, Bequest of Bryce Holcombe, 1984

The item is described as “zoomorphic. It is an animal or animal like, but the museum is not able or ready to make an identification. They may consider it to be a mythological creature. In our view it closely matches the current view of the appearance of the crested, duck billed dinosaurs-the lambeosaurines although few if any hadrosaur fossils have been found in West Africa.

Here we show the sculpture in comparison to one of the crested hadrosaurine dinosaurs, hypacrosaurus.


Hypacrosaurus was a genus of duckbill dinosaur similar in appearance to Corythosaurus. Like Corythosaurus, it had a tall, hollow rounded crest, although not as large and straight. It is known from the remains of two species that spanned 75 to 67 million years ago, in the Late Cretaceous of Alberta, Canada, and Montana, USA, and is the latest hollow-crested duckbill known from good remains in North America. It was an obscure genus until the description of nests, eggs, and hatchlings belonging to H. stebingeri in the 1990s.

It is not our intent to claim that this traditional Dogon sculpture represents hypacrosaurus, merely that it likely represents one of the closely related lambeosauine, crested, duckbilled dinosaurs. The specific type may have yet to be discovered. There are alternate suggestions for this piece of sculpture including a crested duck but we think that it very closely resembles a dinosaur that was thought by science to have gone extinct 65 million years ago.

500 Year Old Dogon Bipedal Statue


The Dogon peoples have become somewhat of the darlings of individuals around the world who believe that ancient technological prowess which is an enigma can best be explained by the belief that in the distant past the earth was visited by advanced aliens who imparted their knowledge to humans in some fashion. There are real archaeological anomalies out there and if one doesn’t have a Genesis/biblical system of belief it easy to see why many would find the ability of the current scientific paradigm to explain them insufficient and why they would construct alternate theories do deal with them.

“Certain researchers investigating the Dogon have reported that they seem to possess advanced astronomical knowledge, the nature and source of which have subsequently become embroiled in controversy. From 1931 to 1956 the French anthropologist Marcel Griaule studied the Dogon. This included field missions ranging from several days to two months in 1931, 1935, 1937 and 1938 and then annually from 1946 until 1956. In late 1946 Griaule spent a consecutive thirty-three days in conversations with the Dogon wiseman Ogotemmêli, the source of much of Griaule and Dieterlen’s future publications.

They reported that the Dogon believe that the brightest star in the sky, Sirius (sigi tolo or ‘star of the Sigui’, has two companion stars, p tolo (the Digitaria star), and mm ya tolo, (the female Sorghum star), respectively the first and second companions of Sirius A. Sirius, in the Dogon system, formed one of the foci for the orbit of a tiny star, the companionate Digitaria star. When Digitaria is closest to Sirius, that star brightens: when it is farthest from Sirius, it gives off a twinkling effect that suggests to the observer several stars. The orbit cycle takes 50 years. They also claimed that the Dogon appeared to know of the rings of Saturn, and the moons of Jupiter.
Griaule and Dieterlen were puzzled by this Sudanese star system, and prefaced their analysis with the following

remark:-
The problem of knowing how, with no instruments at their disposal, men could know the movements and certain characteristics of virtually invisible stars has not been settled, nor even posed.

In 1976 Robert K. G. Temple wrote a book called The Sirius Mystery arguing that the Dogon’s system reveals precise knowledge of cosmological facts only known by the development of modern astronomy, since they appear to know, from Griaule and Dieterlen’s account, that Sirius was part of a binary star system, whose second star, Sirius B, a white dwarf, was however completely invisible to the human eye, (just as Digitaria is the smallest grain[clarification needed] known to the Dogon), and that it took 50 years to complete its orbit. The existence of Sirius B had only been inferred to exist through mathematical calculations undertaken by Friedrich Bessel in 1844. Temple then argued that the Dogon’s information, if traced back to ancient Egyptian sources and myth, indicated an extraterrestrial transmission of knowledge of the stars. Neither Griaule nor Dieterlen had ever made such bold claims about a putative esoteric source for the Dogon’s knowledge.”…Wikipedia


I mention the foregoing because this little 500 year old Dogon metal statue has been swept up into this alien story by calling it a Nommo, a kind of fish/amphibian god slash alien.

Its reptilian, its walking in a bipedal fashion and its strange looking. For purposes of the alien scenario it fits in nicely-if you ignore the fact that it looks quite a bit like a terrestrial animal we know well.

From the Genesis creation account perspective, however it clearly fits as a creation of the first six days; a bipedal dinosaur.

Here we compare it with a more or less random, carnivorous, three toed, bipedal dinosaur.

Which is it”, then an alien fish/amphibian god representative –or an indication that the Dogon peoples of West Africa interacted with, carnivorous, bipedal dinosaurs within the last 1,000 years?

Mystery of the African (Dogon) Ornithopod Dinosaur

Around the time Sir Richard Owen had coined the term “dinosaur” to describe the giant “terrible lizards” whose bones were then being discovered in the mid-1800′s the Dogon tribe was creating art which appears to represent one of them riding one of those creatures.



Features of the “dinosaur” are accurate enough for a species identification to be made. An Ornithopod dinosaur, in our humble opinion.

The birdlike head with strong jawline, “duck bill”; and the knees appearing to bend in the “wrong” direction (opposite ours) separate this dinosaur from the sauropods.

In actuality the front legs do bend in the opposite direction, but it the high ankles of these creatures which make it appear that the rear legs also bend in the forward direction.

Examples of the Ornithopod dinosaur depicted include; iguanadon and hadrosaurus as shown below. Note also the accuracy of this African depiction compared to early “scientific” depictions.

It’s interesting to note that the gallery showing this piece claims that this is dinosaur, from the mid-1800′s and that they can authenticate its age and origin. If you’ve got a spare $1,200, pick it up and send us a photo of the other side of the piece.

Antique African bronze dinosaur



Dogon Tribe African bronze vessel in the form of dinosaur, with the lid, on the lid a seated human figurine, the body of the vessel with linear scarifications, long tail. Covered in a light earthen patina. Antique African artifact 1800′s AD. This antique African artifact comes with a certificate of authenticity and time period.
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Antique African bronze dinosaur
1800′s AD
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Photo:Artifact with Iguanadon middle, and hadrosaurus, bottom.


When we discovered this artifact online, it had already been purchased by our friend Vance Nelson at CreationTruthMinistries.org. He currently has it in his possession and this new photo is Copyright CreationTruthMinistries.

Looking at the piece again we were struck by how detailed it actually is; the “skin” of the “dinosaur” could also provide evidence that the artist actually saw a living version of the creature at a time scientific depictions of dinosaurs were still “primitive”.

Note the diamond shapes that cover the entire creature. Does that feature match up with any modern dinosaur discoveries we wondered; remembering that we thought the artifact represented an Ornithopod dinosaur.

Hadrosaur Skeleton Found

“The hadrosaur skeleton itself which includes parts of the hip, a femur, part of a foot, and a 10-foot section of tail that is missing its tip is already an uncommon discovery because it is the most complete dinosaur skeleton, and the first crested hadrosaur, ever discovered in southern Utah’s Grand Staircase-Escalante National Monument, says Alan Titus, a BLM paleontologist with the monument. Geology and paleontology were part of the reason this monument was established, Titus says.

This specimen is also special because many of the skin impressions were found in direct contact with the bone, so scientists can place with confidence the different scale patterns on particular parts of the dinosaur, Titus adds.

The specimen has two distinct skin patterns, says David Gillette, the dig’s lead scientist and a curator of the Museum of Northern Arizona. A diamond-shaped pattern was found near the tail’s tip, he says, while a more irregular and polygonal pattern was uncovered closer to the hip”….Geotimes, oct 2001

Other West African Dinosaurs and Supposedly Extinct Animals

The West African area seems to have been a hotbed of ancient dinosaur activity. In addition to the Dogon of Mali, items from the nearby Ivory Coast, Nigeria, Niger, the Sudan, Chad and Cameroon, most of which are not included in this article abound.

Not Just Dinosaurs; the Ancient West African’s Clearly “Interacted” with “Extinct” Elephant: Did Platybelodon Become Extinct Between 5 Million and 25 Million Years Ago-Or Did He Live in the Recent Past?


If dogs had become extinct 400 to 500 years ago, evolutionists probably would have created an elaborate family tree and asserted that the various types had evolved over millions of years. Maybe the Pekinese, Chihuahuas and Boxers would have been selected as the older more primitive dogs who would later, in this evolutionary scenario have evolved into the physically larger more gracile forms such as the Collie, the German Shepherd, the Greyhound and the Whippet. No doubt the wolf and other dog breeds would be in the middle branches somewhere.

Evolutionists see the animal tree as essentially a vertical one where millions of years are needed for creatures to evolve from one form to another. Creationists believe that the relationship between animals is horizontal with all forms living at the same time and/or genetic variations of the same type separated by time or distance. The polar bear and the brown bear are still bears, who exhibit their built in genetic variation.

The elephant as we know him is supposed to have evolved from more primitive forms of the order Proboscidea. One such “primitive” alleged elephant was Platybelodon, supposedly extinct before the evolution of modern man. But hey, why is one perched on top of this ancient Sudanese hat? (Fossils of platybelodon have also been found on the continent of Africa.)

“Platybelodon (“flat-tusk”) was a genus of large herbivorous mammal related to the elephant (order Proboscidea).
It lived during the Miocene Epoch, about 15-4 million years ago. Although it thrived during its time, it did not survive past the Miocene and is now extinct.

Some have speculated that it became too specialized and was unable to adapt to changing environmental conditions. Platybelodon was previously believed to have fed in the swampy areas of grassy savannas using its teeth to shovel up aquatic and semi-aquatic vegetation.

Photo, right: The animal displayed on the top of the Antique Sudanese “Hat” is compared with modern depictions of platybelodon.


However, wear patterns on the teeth suggest that it used its lower tusks to strip bark from trees. Platybelodon was very similar to the Amebelodon, another gomphothere species.

Another possibility is that it used its shovel-tusks to dig for water in dry seasons.
Due to the shape of the two lower teeth, which are worn by many gomphothere species (such as Platybelodon and Amebelodon) they are popularly known as shovel tuskers”….Wikipedia

Habitat
Platybelodon lived in wet parts of prairies and ate soft plants (including water plants).
When Platybelodon Lived
This prehistoric elephant lived during the middle to late Miocene (roughly 25 million years ago).
Classification
Platybelodon was an early mammal. Class Mammalia (mammals), Order Proboscidea, Suborder Elephantoidea (elephants), Family Gomphothere (closely related to Amebelodon), Genus Platybelodon.
Fossils
Fossils of Platybelodon have been found in North America, eastern Europe, Africa, and northwestern China (these animals probably crossed via the Siberian land bridge between the continents of Asia and North America)”….Enchanted Learning.com

  

Baule Ancient Dinosaur from Ivory Coast? BAULE ZOOMORPHIC SEAT, ULIMBI BIA, IVORY COAST
Price Realized $7,500
Estimate
$3,000 – $4,000
Sale Information
Sale 2661
Arts of Africa, Oceania and the Americas including Property from the Estate of Ernst Beyeler
10 May 2012
New York, Rockefeller Plaza
TRADITIONAL SCULPTURE FROM UPPER VOLTA
An Exhibition of objects from New-York museums and private collectors
Exhibition Catalog, October 24, 1978 – March 24, 1979
New York, The African-American Institute
1978
Lot Description
BAULE ZOOMORPHIC SEAT, ULIMBI BIA, IVORY COAST
Length: 44½ in. (113 cm.)

This item is compared to a mid-sized quadrupedal dinosaur. This piece has four legs so it is not a bird. Morphologically it is quite similar to this dinosaur depiction. It does not appear to be a lizard.


“The Baule belong to the Akan peoples who inhabit Ghana and Côte d’Ivoire. Three hundred years ago the Baule people migrated westward from Ghana when the Asante rose to power. The tale of how they broke away from the Asante has been preserved in their oral traditions.

During the Asante rise to power the Baule queen, Aura Poku, was in direct competition with the current Asante king. When the Asante prevailed, the queen led her people away to the land they now occupy. The male descendant of Aura Poku still lives in the palace she established and is honored by the Baule as their nominal king.” Arts of Africa

  

An Assembly of Various Allegedly “Extinct for Millions of Years Creatures” In Traditional Upper Volta Sculpture


TRADITIONAL SCULPTURE FROM UPPER VOLTA
An Exhibition of objects from New-York museums and private collectors
Exhibition Catalog, October 24, 1978 – March 24, 1979
New York
The African-American Institute
1978
26 x 21 cm

This antique sculpture from the Upper Volta region (now called Burkina Faso) appears to represent several creatures thought to have been extinct for millions of years. The quadrupeds have horned faces as do the ceratopsian dinosaurs and the bipedal, non human, winged creatures appear to represent several types of pterosaurs.

Both pterosaurs and birds have keeled breastbones but it is especially noticeable on this antique sculpture.

Conclusion:

These are just a few examples of art and artifacts from Western Africa which indicate a familiarity with various types of extinct dinosaurs and other creatures. Can some of them be explained away?

Perhaps.

Can all of them be explained away as mythological or fake? I don’t think so. We’ve encountered hundreds of examples of ancient or antique artifacts that we think prove that just as science was wrong with respect to the ceolocanth by 80,000,000 years (with no evolutionary changes in 400,000,000 evolution years) it is certainly possible that they are also wrong about the evolution of and extinction of the dinosaurs.

Three Cryptozoological Mysteries: The Penn State Dinosaur that Was?; the Ancient Chinese Rhinoceros that Wasn’t; and the 19th Century Pterosaur Displaying Previously Unknown Morphological Features That Might Have Been

Church of Darwin, Crypto, Dinosaurs in Literature, s8int.com, Science, The Flood of Noah, Uncategorized, Unexplained Artifact | Posted by Chris Parker
Feb 04 2012


By Chris Parker

I’m thinking that maybe the best part of my articles are the titles. Should I just stop right here? After all these years I’m still a hunt and peck typist and that took something out of me already. Where’s that Dragon Naturally speaking program?

The Penn State Dinosaur that Was?

Dragon? Oh yeah, naturally, let’s start with the Penn State “dragon”.

To be fair, they don’t call this one a dragon; they call it “zoomorphic”. If you’re interested in looking for dinosaurs in the art of the ancient peoples-in the art of people who lived within the last 5,000 years or so and have an opportunity to search a database of objects, try the words; dragon, zoomorphic, mythical, beast, grotesque, reptile or unknown creature.

This is not to say that these objects will necessarily be depictions of dinosaurs, I’m just saying searching ancient art using the term “dinosaur” is not a profitable enterprise.

I grew up believing that dinosaurs and man lived together as the Bible would have us believe, (calling them dragons). There was a time when I was less than convinced and so set out to find out the truth for myself. Subsequently it’s been confirmed by me after I’ve had the opportunity to search university databases and to view hundreds of thousands of pieces of ancient art in museum collections and for sale in private auctions that we did live within the time of the dinosaurs and that the proof is there.

As for ancient artifacts, the more they resemble a dinosaur, the less likely they will be on public view in a museum and the less valuable they will be. No museum wants to buy your ancient Aztec dinosaur.

Anyway, I read recently that the University of Pennsylvania’s Penn Museum of Archaeology and Anthropology was opening its collection of over 1 million objects to public view through a free online archive;

“Since its founding in 1887, the Penn Museum has collected around one million objects, many obtained directly through its own field excavations or anthropological research. Search the Penn Museum’s digital collections including 326,000 object records representing 660,000 objects with 51,500 images.”

Naturally, my immediate thought was; “I wonder if I can find some dinosaurs in that collection”. First, I searched for the word, “dragon”. Slim pickings. Then I searched the word zoomorphic. This is one of the items I discovered.

Zoomorphic Vessel,
Object Number:
35618
Provenience:
Bolivia
Cachilaya
Section:
American
Materials:
Stone
Description:
In shape of a lizard
Credit Line:
Max Uhle, William Pepper Peruvian Expedition, Funded by Phebe A. Hearst
Other Number / Type:
362 / Field No SF

In the shape of a lizard! But no lizard ever looked like that in my estimation. However, being able to call the object; “zoomorphic” and a “lizard” is why you’re getting to see the object in the first place. Any objects which would have to be classified a “dinosaur” are by definition; fakes.

On the other hand since my impression of the object is that it represents a dinosaur, I have to ask myself; what kind of dinosaur? It appears to be a quadrupedal dinosaur, but it is not long necked like a sauropod or even a prosauropod and it is not an armored dinosaur, nor one of the horned dinosaurs of the ceratopsian family.

This is what I did; I Googled; short necked South American dinosaurs and began perusing that group to see if modern day paleontologists had discovered a short necked, squat, quadrupedal dinosaur in South America, preferably in the Bolivian area which corresponded with an ancient artists depiction of a dinosaur living in his time. Did you follow that?

Here’s what I found.


“Brachy-trachelopan is an unusual short-necked sauropod dinosaur from the latest Jurassic Period (Tithonian) of Argentina. The holotype and only known specimen (Museo Paleontológico Egidio Feruglio MPEF-PV 1716) was collected from an erosional exposure of fluvial sandstone within the Cañadón Cálcero Formation on a hill approximately 25 km north-northeast of Cerro Cóndor, Chubut Province, in west-central Argentina, South America.

Though very incomplete, the skeletal elements recovered were found in articulation and include eight cervical, twelve dorsal, and three sacral vertebrae, as well as proximal portions of the posterior cervical ribs and all the doral ribs, the distal end of the left femur, the proximal end of the left tibia, and the right ilium. Much of the specimen was probably lost to erosion many years before its discovery. The type species is Brachytrachelopan mesai. The specific name honours Daniel Mesa, a local shepherd who discovered the specimen while searching for lost sheep. The genus name translates as “short-necked Pan”, Pan being the god of the shepherds.”…Wikipedia

Distance from Bolivia to Argentina? 1500 Miles. So could Brachytrachelopan have had a range of 1500 miles on the South American continent? Is this the least scientific investigation possible?

No, see paleontology.

Could this ancient piece represent in an artful, non literal way a quadrupedal dinosaur like Brachytrachelopan living not millions of years ago but less than a thousand years ago on the South American continent or; is it just a fat lizard?

You’ll have to decide that for yourself.

 

The Ancient Chinese Rhinoceros that Wasn’t


I was saving this as an entry in Part 2 of my Article: Crouching Dragon, Hidden Dinosaur; How Evolutionary Science Hides Historical Man and Dinosaur Interaction in Plain Sight but since that hasn’t been compiled yet I’ll place two planned entries for that article here.

Along with euphemisms like “zoomorphic”, “mythical” and ‘dragon” that it turns out are often appended to the rare depiction of the dinosaur found in museum collections and at private auction sales is the tendency to misidentify animal depictions.

This is because when the curator is not sure what creature it is that is being represented by the ancient artist he still likes to come up with an answer that is not outside the realm of currently accepted science and which satisfies the potential customer.

It’s an ancient Chinese bear, a new owner might say proudly to his houseguests as they stare into his lighted display case at what is actually a ground sloth. Everyone still oohs and ahhs.

This particular piece was sold at auction at Christie’s auction house in 2007 for $216,000. Here is the description:

Lot Description A RARE AND SMALL BRONZE FIGURE OF A RHINOCEROS
TANG DYNASTY (618-907 AD)

Shown standing four-square with tail flicked to the left, the head well cast with two horns of different length, ears pricked back, small eyes and downward curved, overlapping muzzle sensitively cast along the upper edges of the mouth with folds in the skin, which can also be seen in the skin of the neck and chest, the thick hide indicated by overlapping wave pattern diminishing in size on the head and legs, with a rectangular aperture in the belly, the dark brownish surface with some patches of dark red patina and green encrustation.

Lot Notes The depiction of the rhinoceros in bronze is very rare, especially during the Tang period. Earlier depictions do exist, however, as evidenced by the late Shang rhinoceros zun in the Avery Brundage Collection, illustrated by d’Argencè, The Ancient Chinese Bronzes, San Francisco, 1966, pl. XIX and another large zun (22 7/8in. long), ornately decorated, but quite realistic in its depiction of a rhinoceros, of late Eastern Zhou/Western Han dynasty date, found in Xingping Xian, Shaanxi province, included in the exhibition, The Great Bronze Age of China, Metropolitan Museum of Art, 1980, New York, Catalogue, no. 93


Here’s the problem though; this is Not a depiction of a rhinoceros! (I studied economics in college so….). For one thing, I’ve looked at hundreds if not more than a thousand photographs and depictions of rhinoceri and you’ll not find a single one of them who has horns that point forward. All rhinoceros horns curve backwards.

Small detail, I know but if you look closely at and compare this depiction with that of the rhinoceros you’ll begin to see the differences. For instance, this creature has a beak! No self respecting rhino would sport a “beak” because rhinos do not have “beaks’. Additionally, this rhino has a horn that projects straight up out of the top of his skull. That would appear to be a rhino no no.

There are other differences; the rhino has a sway back, this creature’s back is convex, etc. etc. Did you notice that he’s not wearing the little rhino coat that rhinos seem to wear where there legs seems to be poking out of the short sleeves?

Is there an ancient, perhaps extinct creature with perhaps the size of a rhino, (or larger) horned but with a “beak”? (I may have tipped my hand with the adjacent photo).


Well, the ceratopsia certainly had beaks and ceratopsia does mean “horned face”. After studying members of the ceratopsian family it appears that the comparison with this artifact is pretty solid but; there is one thing missing; the neck frill.

Most if not all known ceratopsian dinosaurs were supposed to have a neck frill although there are some differences among scientists as too how the neck frill appeared.

Also, I can find no photo of the object that shows the tail; only the statement that it curves off to the left. But can a rhino tail do anything but hang? Seeing the tail would answer some questions perhaps because a ceratopsian like tail would certainly rule out the rhino while a rhino like tail would create more questions.

Could this be a yet undiscovered version of a ceratopsian dinosaur without the neck frill? I am put in mind of the Emela-ntouka.
(Although it could also be perspective. The outline of the frill along with the convincing detail of the ceratopsian ‘cheek” may be in evidence).

“The Emela-ntouka is an African legendary creature in the mythology of the Pygmy tribes, and a cryptid purported to live in Central Africa. Its name means “killer of the elephants” in the Lingala language.

In other languages it is known as the Aseka-moke, Njago-gunda, Ngamba-namae, Chipekwe or Irizima. The Emela-ntouka is claimed to be around the size of an African Bush Elephant, brownish to gray in color, with a heavy tail, and with a body of similar shape and appearance to a rhinoceros, including one long horn on its snout. Keeping its massive bulky body above ground level supposedly requires four short, stump-like legs.

It is described as having no frills or ridges along the neck. The animal is alleged to be semi-aquatic and feed on Malombo and other leafy plants. The Emela-ntouka is claimed to utter a vocalization, described as a snort, rumble or growl….Wikipedia

For more information on Emela-ntouka here is a story on Cryptomundo

Here is another aspect of this mystery; Chinese unicorns.

I was researching ancient Chinese rhinos and discovered that somehow there had come to be a conflagration of the rhino and the unicorn; the combo is known today as the “rhinoceros unicorn”. The ancient Chinese unicorn has a frame around its head that somewhat reminds one of the ceratopsian neck frill.

One Chinese site (Chinese-Unicorn.coms) sets out to prove in what would be our 4th cryptozoological mystery that the supposed 50,000 years extinct Elasmotherium is the actual creature being depicted as the ancient Chinese unicorn. Since monokeros is the Greek word meaning “one horn” from which the word unicorn comes to us, the elasmotherium is accurately described as a unicorn whether or not it was the “unicorn”.

Elasmotherium (“Thin Plate Beast”) is an extinct genus of giant rhinoceros endemic to Eurasia during the Late Pliocene through the Pleistocene, documented from 2.6 Ma to as late as 50,000 years ago, possibly later, in the Late Pleistocene, an approximate span of slightly less than 2.6 million years. Three species are recognised. The best known, E. sibiricum was the size of a mammoth and is thought to have borne a large, thick horn on its forehead which was used for defense, attracting mates, driving away competitors, sweeping snow from the grass in winter and digging for water and plant roots”….Wikipedia

Here we show an artists depiction of elasmotherium along with two ancient depictions of the unicorn. Left, Eastern Han Dynasty, 206 B.C. – 220 A.D. right, also Eastern Han Dynasty.

What is the being depicted in the object that sold at Christie’s auction in 2007 for $216K? A mythical creature? A ceratopsian? Emela-ntouka?

What it is is a genuine crptozoological mystery.

What it ain’t is a rhinoceros.

 

20th Century Pterosaur Displaying Previously Unknown Morphological Features That Might Have Been

Iola Register, September 25, 1896
CAUGHT IN FLORIDA. MARKET REPORTS.
Marine Monster Tbat Is Part Fish Part
Bird Part Animal
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“Sea serpents are becoming too common, and when Florida people decided to produce a marine monster the serpent family was ignored and the Diabolus Maris was produced.

The picture which is presented was made from a drawing sent to the Kansas City Journal by Capt. George Bier, of the United States Navy.


The animal was caught off the coast of Florida, at Malanzas inlet, in 72 feet of water. It was caught on a hook and line, and when dragged aboard the boat was full of fight.
In order to preserve the strange monster it was found necessary to kill it, for it was so vicious that it could not be handled.

This remarkable relic of the antediluvian monster seemed to be part bird, part fish and part animal.

Capt. Bier described it as follows:

“It has no scales, although it can swim. A portion of its body is covered with hair and when it wants to fly it inflates two windbags behind its wings. This Inflation is through its gills, which are situated on its breast. It stands upright upon its feet, which are shaped like hoofs. Its face and body are more human like than anything else and its mouth is like that of a raccoon, garnished with two rows of teeth. It stood about 20 inches high and strutted like a rooster.”

Above and below the creature compared to a “modern” pteosaur depiction and below to an antique African pterosaur depiction.

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After its capture the monster was christened DIABOLUS MARIS, and was transferred to Tampa. Fla. where it has since been on exhibition. Naturalists who have seen it can find no other name for it, and it’s like has never been seen before.

Some fish have fins that resemble wings, and can be used for flying, but fish do not wear hair.

The presence of legs prove that it is not a fish, and its ability to live under water and the gills
prove that it is not a bird.”…End of article

Question? If pterosaurs had an air bladder on their backs that could be filled with air to assist them in flight would we be able to determine this from fossils?

Would an air bladder help to explain how such large creatures could get off the ground? Paleontologists are so confused by the subject that they recently released to widely separated “studies” reported heavily in the media that reached two opposite conclusions; pterosaurs could not fly and alternatively they were the best flyers ever. (Couldn’t Fly-Mar 2009
Could Fly 10,000 Miles-Oct 2010)

Did we know that pterosaurs had “hair” or that they may have been able to breathe under water? That they had gills?

“The pterosaurs seem to have been able to fly soon after birth ( as possibly were some ancestral birds which means that during this prodigious growth their aerodynamics had to be functional at all times. In contrast, modern birds are born flightless and only begin to fly at nearly adult size.” .BBC Science

It makes more sense that God created pterosaurs with the ability to fly utilizing wings and air bladders than to believe that mutation and survival of the fittest created winged flightless creatures, eh Paleontologists?

Video: Dinosaurs and Man; The Lands That Darwin Forgot..Episodes 1-8

Church of Darwin, Crypto, Dinosaurs in Literature, Religious, s8int.com, Science, Unexplained Artifact | Posted by Chris Parker
Oct 28 2010

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Darwin and time forgot the co-existence of man and dinosaurs but it is reflected in the art of ancient peoples. The variety and repetitive discoveries of known dinosaur and pterosaur species offer proof that Darwinism is a lie; all species of animals on this planet have lived concurrently with man.

The proof of this assertion is explored in eight episodes. The Series; The Lands That time Forgot”.
(Note this is not a real series….Its a s8int.com conceit)

And God created the great dragons…

And man memorialized these creatures; great and small; in exquisite detail. That is why these examinations will never be popular. everything that we’ve been told is true by materialistic sources–is untrue–and that is impossible in that world view.

Link to Video; Dinosaurs and Man; The Lands That Darwin Forgot..Episodes 1-8

Note: No actual, horses, dogs or dinosaurs were hurt or harmed in the making of this movie….

30+ Out of Place and Out of Time Animals in the Ancient Americas that Expound Genesis and Confound Science; “Evidence” that Proves the Biblical Account Reliable and Macro-Evolution Deniable

Crypto, Dinosaurs in Literature, s8int.com, Science, The Flood of Noah, Uncategorized, Unexplained Artifact | Posted by Chris Parker
Sep 22 2010

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YouTube Direkt Quadrupeds and Flatheads, Ominivores and Carnivores, Plesiosaurs and Dinosaurs, Giant Creatures with Identifying Features, the Uropatagium and the alleged explosion of the Cambrian.

Thirty plus “eons extinct” creatures that lived in the Americas in recent times.

Slide show and Movie;(Part 1 and Part 2) The movie has the narration. See the slide show for detail and deliberation.

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The Monster of Salt Lake; Huge Flying Reptile Was Seen Carrying A Horse In It’s Jaws–Half Bird, Half Reptile; All Pterosaur?

Crypto, Dinosaurs in Literature, s8int.com, Science, Uncategorized, Unexplained Artifact | Posted by Chris Parker
Jun 27 2010

Photo:A Black and white version of this drawing appeared with the article. Click to see higher resolution

An article carried widely was published in the Salt Lake City, County and reprinted in the; Denver News and the Logansport Pharos, Indiana, on Sept 22, 1903, the Pittsburgh Press, Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, September 3, 1903 (among others) gave an eyewitness account of a gigantic, “prehistoric monster” on Stansbury Island that could only have been a long-tailed, pterosaur.

The story mentions that there had been a number of “current” eyewitnesses of the “terrible creature” but that the account by Martin Gilbert and John Barry, two hunters who recently returned from an expedition was the most complete in cataloging the creature’s movements.

This account is fantastic in the various meanings of the word and no doubt most would simply believe it to be untrue and impossible. The art that appeared with the story (shown here) which was not often reproduced with the text in the various papers that picked up the story, clearly portrays a pterosaur. Science says that these creatures became extinct millions of years ago and that is proof enough for most that there is no truth to this account.

On the other hand, there have been hundreds if not thousands of sightings of similar (mostly smaller) creatures like this in the last 20 or 30 years. For example, this eyewitness accounts suggests a creature in the same size range as the 1903 sighting:

In December, 1997 my husband and I both sighted a huge creature flying over a densely populated area, while we were out walking one night in Perth, Western Australia on the coastline around 10:30 pm. . . .”

“ . . it had a ruddy reddish brown leathery skin; (we could see its underneath as it flew over us at about 300 ft up; the glow from all the ground lighting made that possible), it had a long tail and a wingspan that we estimated at between 30-50 feet across. Complete Story

Prior Sightings:

It should be mentioned that there had been prior sightings of this or other monsters at Stansbury Island (or Great Salt Lake) prior to this account; in the 1840’s a “Brother Bainbridge” reported seeing a “dolphin-like” body of large size in the Lake near Antelope Island and in 1877 J.H. McNeil and several other employees of the Barnes and Co. Slat Works Co. reported being chased by a huge creature with a crocodile-like body and the head like a horse’s which emitted a fearsome bellowing noise. Skeptics suggest that the 1877 sighting was a buffalo….Wikipedia

The local Native American’s had an oral tradition about a monster that inhabited the Great Salt Lake area called the Great Mosquito Monster or the Giant Mosquito Monster. This winged creature with a long beak (like a mosquito?) was a terror and was reportedly responsible for the disappearance and destruction of many braves. It’s not difficult to understand how a creature like a large pterosaur could inspire the name or the description; “The Great Mosquito Monster”.

In the sighting referenced by this article, in 1903, some information is provided that could shed some light on pterosaur behavior as well as some explanation as to why this creature is seen both in the air and in the water. The 1903 eyewitnesses claimed that the creature was at home in the sky and in the water. This could account for sightings on land and in the lake itself. The sightings are collectively called the North Shore Monster.

Aquatic Pterosaurs?
It is interesting to note that upon the initial discovery of pterosaur fossils, they were thought to be aquatic:
“The first pterosaur fossil was described by the Italian naturalist Cosimo Collini in 1784. Collini misinterpreted his specimen as a seagoing creature that used its long front limbs as paddles. A few scientists continued to support the aquatic interpretation even until 1830, when the German zoologist Johann Georg Wagler suggested that Pterodactylus used its wings as flippers..”…Wikipedia

Maybe they weren’t so far off after all. In 1922, a New York Times article reported that a fifty foot marine creature eventually took flight after sinking a boat in the Mediterranean after the crew pelted it with pomegranates. Reportedly the creature had been seen circling the Dog Island in the sea of Marmora for several days as well as hassling ships and boats in the area. Who makes up details like that?….s8int.com

The Monster of Salt Lake
Huge Flying Reptile Was Seen Carrying A Horse In It’s Jaws
Half Bird, Half Reptile.

“A terrible, nameless, unclassified creature of the animal world is exciting the curiosity, wonder and fear of occasional visitors to Stansbury island, in the Southern portion of Great Salt lake.

This monster, for it can be called nothing else, has lately, it is said, been seen by several persons, but the best account of its characteristics and movements is given by Martin Gilbert and John Barry, two hunters who recently returned from an expedition over the island, in the course of which they studied the habits of this hitherto unheard of creature for three days.

The monster, which appears to be almost equally at home in the air, on the beach or submerged in the briny waters of Salt lake, is probably the sole survivor of a prehistoric species. It is doubtless the last representative of a family whose other members, dead ages since, have left the testimony of their existence in the primeval rocks of the mountains.

Arranging in concise form the description of this incredible relic of the animal world from the accounts given
by those who have observed it at a close range, it seems in plain, unscientific language a combination of fish, alligator and bat.”

One of the eyewitnesses put the size of the creature while the other, who closely studied the tracks it left in the sand of the beach thought it closer to 65 feet in length.

Photo:Comparison of monster drawing on decription of eyewitnesses with current artist conceptions of certain long tailed pterosaurs. Click for higher resolution

The head was described as being like that of an alligator and it was thought that its jaws could open as wide as ten feet and that they were filled with saw-edged teeth. The body was described as being encased in “horny scales” and its eyes like so many modern “pterosaur” sightings as fiercely glowing.

The 1903 article continues:

“As to this Gilbert and Barry are not positive, (scales) as the constant diving of the beast, if such it may be called, into the strong brine of the lake has incrusted it with a thick coating of salt, which, save near the wings, completely hides the body.

It is due to this unusual phenomenon that the hunters obtained their first sight of the monster. According to
their account, they first sighted it at a distance of between one and a half and two miles. The day was clear, the sun intensely hot. Gilbert’s own words of the discovery are:

“We were walking westward from the east shore of the island about 9 o’clock in the morning when suddenly to the northwest there appeared a thing. I don’t know what to call it.

It looked to me like a brilliant rainbow folded into a compact mass, moving rapidly through the air. “In three, or four minutes the monster’s position was such that it no longer reflected the sunlight directly toward us, and wo could then discern the outline of the form.

Its wings were batlike stretching out over a great expanse, I should say at least 100 feet from tip to tip.

The tail was proportionately short and resembled that of a huge fish. We were not close enough at this time to tell much about the head, only we saw that the jaws were very long. In shape the head was like that of a crocodile.

“We watched it disappear in the gathering gloom of the night, but were for a long time paralyzed with fear, not knowing when it might return. It was probably an hour later when it did come back.

We heard the swish of the mighty wings before it could be seen, but as it drew nearer by the light of the young moon in the west we saw that it carried in its great jaws a large horse, which, I suppose, it had swooped down upon while feeding. The horse was badly crushed and mangled.”

At that point the article continues that they listened to the crunching of bone that could be heard in the cave for the better part of an hour, after it quited down they waited for a while and then stole back to their camp on the other side of the island. It must be assumed that the balance of their observations over what wa described as three days took place at some distance on the other side of Stansbury Island.

Bioluminescent Pterosaurs Over Lake Erie-And Elsewhere?

Crypto, Dinosaurs in Literature, s8int.com, Science, Unexplained Artifact | Posted by Chris Parker
Mar 10 2010

 A witness has filmed anomalous lights over Lake Erie which he says have recently appeared over Lake Erie and have returned to the same area five nights in a row.

He is convinced that the unidentified objects aren’t birds or aircraft due to the way they move and the characteristics of the lights they “emit”. The full story; UfO’s Over lake Erie can be found here.

PRIOR OCCURRENCE: On Monday, December 14, 1998, at 6:30 p.m., a woman witness was outdoors in Avonia, Pennsylvania (population 1,366), a small town 10 miles (16 kilometers) west of Erie, Pa, and about one mile south of Lake Erie, when she saw a UFO. …she was startled to see a bright white light with a tail that appeared to pass directly over her head. The object was moving from north to south, and no sound was apparent.” “The object continued to move to a distance of about 30 feet” from the witness “and stopped directly above the roof of my house. The object then appeared as a solid, real white light, and it was motionless. It then began a pattern of blinking off, then blinking on–at about one-second intervals. I became frightened at that point and ran inside, and that was the last the object was observed.” Stan Gordon ,UFO Hotline

Photo: Right: From the video; Identifying the unidentified? Glowing edges of long tailed pterosaur’s wings and tail–including the species specific tail vane at tail’s end.

We note that the closeup of the lighted outline of one of the flying objects reminds us very much of a pterosaur. Here we provide a graphic indicating how these lights might indicate the outspread wings of such a bio illuminated creature. There have been a number of eyewitness accounts, particularly around the mainland of Papua New Guinea, of bioluminescent flying creatures locally known as ropen or indava.

Clifford Paiva, A physicist, examined video footage of two strange lights that explorers think are bioluminescent pterosaurs, and declared that the glow was not from meteors, lanterns, campfires or an airplane. Paul Nation, of Granbury, Texas, videotaped the lights one night, in November, 2006, in a remote mountainous area of the mainland of Papua New Guinea.

Photo: Left, Standing on the ground, a 3 foot or taller pterosaur could look vaguely “humanoid”. This is the man-bat, seen in Mexico in April 2009–flying abreast of a car and looking in the window. He wasn’t glowing-but he did glower.

Paiva, now a missile defense physicist working in Southern California, found no commonplace explanation for the fourteen seconds of video. Reporting his initial findings to Jonathan Whitcomb, author of “Searching for Ropens,” he also noted that the two glowing forms independently and only slowly changed light intensity; unlike what would be expected in the flickering of a fire, as some had suggested that the lights were. This information comes from a Jonathan Whitcomb press release in Feb. 2007.

Eyewitnesses have reporting glowing figures matching the description in whole or in part of glowing or bioluminescent pterosaur-like creatures since at least the early 1950′s. Self illuminating flying creatures, if they exist could provide the answers to quite a few current mysteries. Number one, why don’t more people see pterosaurs if they exist? Answer: they are nocturnal and give off a bright light that people misidentify as ufo’s or which people simply can’t identify. Secondly, from a distance a lighted object could appear to be oval or saucer shaped giving rise to more accounts of ufo’s.

The bioluminescence could be used for hunting and fishing at night. Many eyewitnesses have seen mysterious lights over water and many witnesses as well have reported bright lights and the absence of sound. Thirdly, consider what a self illuminated pterosaur might look like on the ground. They are bi-pedal and possibly quadrupedal as well. They (pterosaurs) could account for flying men and winged humanoid accounts (by the hundreds over the years) as well.

Photo: This ‘UFO” was photographed over Witchita in 2009. Here we compare it to several long tailed pterosaur drawings. The original story was here.

Superficially, they might be human-like in their stance. Perhaps standing on two strong legs, with two arms, wings tucked they would give rise to descriptions as; “large headed aliens”, “humanlike”, and/or “reptilian”. Many witnesses have described creatures wearing a cape or having tight fitting clothes, and/or with a large backpack or a machine of some kind on their backs. Others clearly saw wings on ocassion. Pterosaurs who emit light and fish in lakes could account for “silent” UFO’s, for triangle shaped UFO’s and for eyewitness accounts of “dripping” lights.

If pterosaurs do still exist, why hasn’t anyone caught one on camera? We show here two that we think were caught on camera in 2009 as well as provide a few eyewitness accounts featuring glowing, pterosaur-like creatures. What’s the deal with pterosaurs, we do talk about them quite a bit? Just more proof that what we’ve been taught and are being taught about our origins and this planet’s past-is frequently untrue.

Flatwoods Monster

In 1952, in Flatwood, West Virginia, 7 people claimed to have seen a 10 foot, green glowing creature with a red face and bulging eyes. A Mrs. May and 6 youths climbed a hill after her children told her that they saw a bright object land there. Gene Lemon, 17 years old reportedly then saw a pair of lighted eyes in a tree. After he shined his flashlight on the creature, he fell over backwards. The object which according to Mrs. May was about four feet wide began to move towards them in a bouncing, floating motion.

Mrs. May also reported an overwhelming burning, smell that made them all sick. She further described the creature as having the “shape of a man, with a red face and bulging eyes“. She also said that it had a “shield” on its back in the shape of the ace of spades. Several armed men returned to find the creature gone but it was said that a sickening sweet odor still remained.

Miami “Lighted”, Silent, Triangle Shaped UFO Lands on Water

MUFON has hundeds if not thousands of sighting reports similar to this one. What is lighted, silent, “triangular” and is often sighted over water? Here we take a close-up of the photo submitted with the sighting report and demonstrate how a bioluminescent pterosaur might fit the bill.

“as my friend (pilot and works for spirit airlines) and i were looking up at the downtown Miami skyline i noticed a small flying object in the sky. it was a triangular shape with red lights. it moved slowly and descended down onto the water it landed. it was close enough for me to recognize that it wasn’t a plane and it made no noise. it drifted to the right and stopped for a few minutes.

i noticed a small boat that passed by it and the ufo’s light shut off and after the boat passed it turned back on. then the ufo drifted to the left about a mile then the lights went off again and it disappeared from my sight.. Mufon March 22, 2010

Glowing Creature, February 2006

“One summer a few years ago, myself, my younger sister and a few friends were on a camping trip. We would camp at the same place every year (a small wood surrounded by fields, moors and quarries) and had camped there many times that year with no problems or strange experiences.

This one night of camping, however, was very different from any before or since. It was quite late in the night (around one) and we were sitting around the campfire having a drink and a laugh, when suddenly my sister screamed, “Oh my god!” and pointed into the field next to us.

Everyone else stood up to see what she was pointing at, and right there in the center of the field was this “animal.”

It was white in color and about the same size as a big dog. It had large red eyes and it was glowing very brightly. As I’ve already said, it was late at night in a pitch-black field in the middle of nowhere. We had no torches shining on this thing, and yet it still stood out like a sore thumb. It really did glow.

My friends and I moved toward this thing to try and scare it away because my sister was getting very upset by now. We got to within around 40 feet of this thing and then it moved so fast it was hard to keep up with it. In less than a couple of seconds it ran 30 feet and scaled a 7-foot stone wall, jumping down to the other side. It then ran another 50 feet to the end of the wall and jumped back up onto it and then stood on its hind legs watching us! When it stood like that, it was about the same size as a man and looked rather daunting”….by Ben Hardy, Your True Tales

Glowing Creature-Strange Lights Reported In Pennsylvania, October 4, 2008

Photo: Left, This “creature” was photographed with a cell phone over an Andean lake in 2009. The original story is here.

Two hunters in Elk County, Pennsylvania, encountered something strange which they are still trying to find an explanation for. The two men entered the woods at about 4:45 a.m. It had been raining, and it was very dark. For lighting they had only a “hat light” and a mini mag light.

…….Suddenly about 150-200 yards ahead on the other side of a field, they noticed two very dim glowing lights. The lights were about the size of a baseball and about two feet apart, and estimated to be about 15 feet above the ground. They glowed, “like the indiglo color of a watch.” The two men thought the lights were odd, but considered that maybe there were some hunters ahead. The men shut off their lights. As they walked forward, in the distance toward where they saw the first glowing lights, they now observed what looked like a flashlight beam flashing back and forth between the tree line.

They did not think this was odd, since it was archery season, and there was the possibility that other hunters were in the area. Within minutes of seeing the single light beam, about 10 individual white beams of light suddenly appeared. These light beams which “flashed around,” seemed to originate from one point, and were not moving around as if being carried by someone. The beams appeared to be about 10 feet above the ground, and projected parallel with the ground, and extended straight out from the originating location.

…….. The men were confused as to what they were seeing. Their attention was then drawn to a glowing figure, moving from the area of the beams of light. “It seemed as though one light beam led it to the field.” The glowing human-like form moved about 20 feet out into a grass field. The grass in the area was about six inches tall. The other beams of light suddenly went out.

One witness described the being as similar to “a silhouette of a person just glowing, completely glowing.” The man said the best way to describe what they saw was if someone took glow in the dark paint, and rubbed it on a person’s body. The being was estimated to be about three feet tall, the head may have been a little larger than a human, and the upper part of the body seemed to lean forward.

The arms appeared to hang straight down, and were longer than that of a human. The legs were hard to see, as the glow was blocking out the shape. The color of the glow was described as a light green, lime color. The being seemed to be moving at twice the speed of the two men, who were walking fast. It actually gave the impression that it was gliding, and no sound was heard.

Stan Gordon, Researcher

California Glowing Creature, Feb, 2010

A California witnesses’ attention is drawn to a 3-foot-wide beam of light shining down on the backyard February 27, and then sees a “humanoid” figure, according to testimony from the Mutual UFO Network (MUFON) database.

“The light beam ended up moving towards one of my windows,” the witness stated, “then held there about 3 feet away from it.”

But the witness soon noticed something even odder – “what looked to be a projection on the white flowers on the fruit tree of a head and shoulders of a mottled brown and black reptile humanoid figure.” Examiner.com

Amazing UFO over Kaneohe Marine Airstation, Dec, 2009

Dirk Vander Ploeg, www.ufodigest.com

Witness Frank Abreu had been taking photos at the Kaneohe Airstation in Hawaii. He told UFO Digest;

“I have been getting alot of black orbs and white orbs following the incoming aircraft and out going aircraft from the base, but this was invisible to the naked eye. But somehow my digital camera was able to pick this up.

I have ran a few tests on the image, it is 3D and appears to be silver or metal in color. It is not a bird or any other convential aircraft. Please tell me what you think.”

Here we show Frank’s zoomed image alongsize several drawings of Quetzalcoatlus for comparison. It’s unusual to see a drawing of a pteosaur from this angle but as you can see, a straight-on view with wings on the downbeat provides a similar profile. That original story and additional photos are here:
UFO Digest

“Interestingly enough, Eskin Kuhn, while a Marine at Quantanomo, witnessed two pterosaurs flying side by side in daylight. Mr. Kuhn is an artist and drew very accurate depictions of the pteorsaurs he saw. One of them has wings in downbeat and it appears that were it to be flying directly towards an eyewitness could provide the same profile as the one in Mr. Abreu’s photo.

Large Light Green Luminescent ‘Birds’ Observed Over Hayward, CA
Thursday, March 11, 2010

5 to 7 large, glowing birds in that famous, lime green color over Hayward, California flying at a height of approximately 20 feet;

“I believe it might have been a little more than a year and a half ago. I was outside in my backyard at night when I heard a weird squawking noise, almost like a seagull, but different. I look up at the sky and see a flock of birds flying.

Their wings were straight out, unmoving, and they were flying in a straight line. It was like they were gliding. I could see them well against the dark sky. They were what I can only describe as a light green luminescent color. There was a faint light coming from them, almost like they were glowing.”

Source:Natural Plane Blogspot

Paranormal State – Devil in Jersey Season 4 Episode 12

On the program; Paranormal State; “Devil in Jersy”, the team heads to the Pine Barrens in New Jersey, the “birthplace” of the “jersey devil” and an area where to this day any number of jersey devil sightings are reported every year.

Based on eyewitness descriptions, some, like ourselves have suggested that what most often are being seen are still living pterosaurs. This however is not a ‘believable” or preferred option for these kinds of programs including “MonsterQuest”, which itself turned in another pretty weak “quest” in its Jersey Devil Episode.

Both of these programs like to conduct “scientific” investigations. That’s why they have a FLIR camera, after all. A FLIR is a Thermal Imaging, Night Vision and Infrared Camera System. Consider this; both programs conducting “scientific” investigations spent some time considering the legend of the Jersey Devil in which ‘Mother Leeds” asks that her 13th child be born a devil.

When one of the program experts repeats this tale, certain of the investigators raise their eyebrows in rapt consideration. On the Paranormal State program, the cryptozoologist offers his theory that maybe this 13th child had feral offspring who were still out there bothering good people.

What about the flying part another investigator asks? Crypto guy shrugs.

However, the very first witness that they interview on Paranormal State says and I quote “I told my friends that I just saw a pterodactyl”! This of course was not followed up at all—except to ask how tall it was. (Four to Five feet tall)

The eyewitness says that he was at an intersection at dusk when he saw the creature flying up from some trees. He said that it was very large and had wings like a bat. He went on to say that you could see capillaries or veins through its wings.

He called his friends to say that he had seen a pterodactyl (he didn’t know what else to call it) and then he went and immediately drew it so that he wouldn’t forget it. The drawing is shown here (above right). This whole line of investigation (pterodactyl) was not followed through with or mentioned through the rest of the program as they continued to speculated freely as to what it might be.

One expert claimed that none of the eyewitness accounts matched any known creatures.

Pterosaur!

Hello!

The program did manage to catch something with apparent wings while out on their second night of investigation on their FLIR camera which is also shown here in comparison with a toy pterodactyl. This “FLIR’d” creature also has that telltale green glow but I’m not sure if a night vision green glow counts.

Source:ParanormalState.com
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See Also: What creature through history and night has that quality of evanescence?
What creature stalks the night with wings that glow by bioluminescence?

Tracking Living (Or Recently Dead) African Pterosaurs

Pteranodon on a Stick: Egyptian “Was” Scepter Creature No Mystery Without Darwinian History

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Tracking Living (Or Recently Dead) African Pterosaurs

Crypto, Dinosaurs in Literature, s8int.com, Science, Unexplained Artifact | Posted by Chris Parker
Dec 17 2009

by Chris Parker, Copyright 2009

Isaiah 30:6 (New King James Version)
The burden against the beasts of the South. Through a land of trouble and anguish, From which came the lioness and lion, The viper and fiery flying serpent….

One might think that the continent of Africa would be the repository of animal fossils of all types but the number of pterosaur fossils discovered there have been few and far between. I say this with the knowledge that many locations in modern day Africa have been the scene of pterosaur-like sightings.

In addition, the ancient art of Western Africa and the coast of Eastern Africa has featured a number of pterosaur like creatures -as we shall see.

In 2005, a particularly fine pterosaur fossil was discovered by paleontologists in the Sahara.

PHOTO 1, Top Left. Senufo. Medicine container/statue. Note the featherless head, the strong legs. This reptilian appearing creature has captured what appears to be a monkey in its beak.
PHOTO 2, RIGHT. The same piece compared with a model of the fossil African pterosaur discovered in the Sahara in 2005 on the left and another type of long-billed pterosaur shown on the right for comparison.

Click either photo to see an enlargement

Pterosaur Fossils in Africa
“Giant flying reptile lands on Chicago’s West Side
Paleontologists discover pterosaur fossils in the Sahara
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A new species of pterosaur with a 16-foot wingspan has been discovered in the southern Sahara by a team led by University of Chicago paleontologist Paul Sereno.

“This find puts African pterosaurs on the map,” said Sereno, who is also an explorer-in-residence at the National Geographic Society.

Previous finds of these winged reptiles in Africa had been limited to individual bones or teeth. The 110-million-year-old fossils include most of one wing and several slender teeth from its over-sized jaws.

PHOTO 3,4 & 5 Senufo. The following three photographs feature an African mask which contrives to show two different types of pterosaurs, one upon another. The mask is shown entire in this intial photograph and then each of the two creatures are compared to pterosaur types (dimorphodon top, Campylognathoides and similar below) in separate photos. Click either photo to see an Enlargement.

“To find a wing composed of a string of paper-thin bones in a river deposit next to the sturdy bones of dinosaurs is a remarkable feat of preservation,” Sereno said. The bones and teeth were found in Cretaceous-age rocks in Niger that were deposited by ancient rivers…”

It might be instructive at this point to examine just what types of pterosaur fossils have been found on the continent of Africa especially because in a few paragraphs we will attempt to match several pieces of ancient art with certain known pterosaur types as potential identifications.

“Africa shows a great potential for pterosaur material due to the extensive outcrops in several areas. However, pterosaur remains have been found only in nine African countries (Kellner et al. 2007) and, prior to 1997, just postcranial material had been reported (Reck 1931, Galton 1980, Mader and Kellner 1999, Wellnhofer and Buffetaut 1999).

Recently new deposits were found with associated bones, including a partial wing from Lebanon (Dalla Vecchia et al. 2001) and a sequence of five cervical vertebrae from Morocco (Pereda-Super-biola et al. 2003). The red beds of Albian Cenomanian age from Morocco and Late Jurassic Tendaguru beds, located approximately 75 km northwest of Lindi, Tanzania (Maier 1997), are the most potential deposits in providing isolated remains up to now (Kellner and Mader 1997, Wellnhofer and Buffetaut 1999, Mader and Kellner 1999).

Regarding Tendaguru beds, four species were first established by the pioneer studies of Reck (1931): “Rhamphorhynchus” tendagurensis (based on radius and ulna), “Pterodactylus” maximus (based on a comparatively large ulna), “Pterodactylus” brancai (based on a tibiotarsus, fibula and the first phalanx of the wing finger), and “Pterodactylus” arningi (based on the first phalanx of the wing finger). Later, Galton (1980) reviewed the tibiotarsus from “Pterodactylus” brancai and reclassified it as “Dsungaripterus brancai” (Dsungaripteridae).

However, all those specimens are too fragmentary or incomplete for any determination at a species level, being regarded as nomina dubia by Unwin and Heinrich (1999). These authors also described a new taxon (Tendaguripterus recki) based on a short section of a mandibular symphysis.”….
On two pterosaur humeri from the Tendaguru beds (Upper Jurassic, Tanzania) Fabiana R. Costa; Alexander W.A. Kellner


PHOTO 6 & 7 Dan Tribe. Astriddahl.com. “This piece is a Zoomorphic representation of a story or fable involving a crocodile, bird and a snake.” Note the cape-like wings and strong legs. Here we show the “bird figure” in comparison with certain pterosaurs (Photo 7). This “bird” has teeth–and birds do not have them. Click either photo to see an Enlargement.

“Ancient” Pterosaur Sightings

“Though dragons have completely dropped out of all modern works on natural history, they were still retained and regarded as quite orthodox until a little before the time of Cuvier;…For instance, Pigafetta, in a report of the kingdom of Congo (The Harleian Collections of Travels, vol. ii, 1745, p. 457.) ‘gathered out of the discourses of Mr. E. Lopes, a Portuguese,’ speaking of the province of Bemba, which he defines as ‘on the sea coast from the river Ambrize, until the river Coanza towards the south,’ says of serpents,

There are also certain other creatures which, being as big as rams, have wings like dragons, with long tails, and long chaps, and divers rows of teeth, and feed upon raw flesh. Their colour is blue and green, their skin painted like scales, and they have two feet but no more.

‘The Pagan Negroes used to worship them as gods, and to this day you may see divers of them that are kept for a marvel. And because they are very rare, the chief lords there curiously preserve them, and suffer the people to worship them, which tendeth greatly to their profits by reason of the gifts and oblations which the people offer unto them.’

And John Barbot, Agent-General of the Royal Company of Africa, in his description of the coasts of South Guinea, (Churchill, Collections of Voyages, 1746, p. 213.) says: ‘Some blacks assuring me that…there are winged serpents or dragons having a forked tail and a prodigious wide mouth, full of sharp teeth, extremely mischievous to mankind, and more particularly to small children.’” Gould, Charles, Mythical Monsters, 1886

PHOTO 8 Senufo, Senjen bird figures. Pteros on the wing? Photo 9. Senjen. More pteros on the wing. Note the reptilian character (central bony and raised skull ridge) and the teeth of these flying creatures in the Enlarged photo. Click either photo to see an Enlargement.

It should be noted that the two earlier books quoted, from 1745 and 1746, accurately describe pterosaurs many years before their “discovery” by science which first described them in 1784 and first suggested that they might fly in 1801.

“Modern” Pterosaur Sightings

Eyewitness continue up to present day all over Africa. One of the most well known of them is of creature known as the Kongamato.

“The Kongamato (“breaker of boats”) is a reported pterosaur-like creature from the border area of Zambia, Angola and Congo. Suggested identities include a modern-day Rhamphorhynchus, a misidentified bird (such as the very large and peculiar Saddle-billed Stork), or a giant bat.

Frank Melland, in his 1923 book In Witchbound Africa, describes it as living along certain rivers, and very dangerous, often attacking small boats. It was red, with a wingspan of 4 to 7 feet. Members of the local Kaonde tribe identified it as a pterodactyl after being shown a picture of one from Melland’s book collection.

In 1956 an engineer, J.P.F. Brown, allegedly saw the creature at Fort Rosebery near Lake Bangweulu in Northern Rhodesia (now Zambia). It was about 6:00 p.m. when he saw two creatures flying slowly and silently directly overhead. He observed that they looked prehistoric.

He estimated a wingspan of about 3 to 3 1/2 feet (1 meter) and a beak-to-tail length of about 4 1/2 feet (1.5 meters). It reportedly had a long thin tail, and a narrow head which he likened to an elongated snout of a dog.

PHOTO 10 The auction house calls this creature a monster-and so it is. Here we’ve shown it in comparison to one of the tapejara crested pterosaurs. Note the reptilain character, the wing shape, the very unusual mouth treatment, the teeth? It is obviously some type of crested pterosaur. If you go back and look at Photo 8, it is appears that they represent the same type of pterosaur. Click either photo to see an Enlargement.

The following year, at a hospital at Fort Rosebery, a patient came in with a severe wound in his chest, claiming that a large bird had attacked him in the Bangweulu swamps. When asked to draw the bird, he allegedly drew a creature resembling a pterosaur. This drawing does not appear to have survived to the present.

It is curious to note that the area concerned is advertised as a prime birdwatching site, but this large, flying animal seems not to have been reported by any visiting birdwatchers.

There are reports of similar creatures (no details given) from Angola, Zimbabwe, Democratic Republic of Congo, Namibia, Tanzania and Kenya”…..wikipedia

Ancient African Art and the Senufo and Dan Peoples of West Africa

BONUS PHOTO Cheeky! Compare mouths of these two types of crested pteros. Flip pteros mouth on the right from vertical to horizontal in your mind’s eye…. Click either photo to see an Enlargement.

Ancient African artists have occasionally portrayed creatures very much like pterosaurs. As we look at these pieces of African art, keep in mind that there are many types of pterosaurs and that modern artists might have a less developed idea of what these creatures looked like than the ancient artists who might have actually seen them fly.

Birds do not have teeth. Many pterosaurs do have teeth and of course do not have feathers. The toes on the feet of many pterosaurs are “parallel” and thus their feet and footprints are more human like in shape than are those of the typical bird.

Pterosaurs are thought to have been reptilian rather than “bird like” and of course their wings are more “bat like” than like those of birds. Keep those items in mind as you examine these pieces.

PHOTO 11 Senufo mask. PHOTO 12 Compared with pterodactylus kochi. Click Here to Read That Article
Senufo Ivory Coast (Cote d’Ivoire) The Senufo are made up of a number of diverse subgroups who migrated into their current location from the north during the 15th and 16th centuries.

Unlike their neighbors to the north they have remained relatively sheltered from intrusive cultures including the Songhai and Hausa. Although they have certainly borrowed knowledge from their neighbors, they have not had to fear constant attacks and social upheaval.

All Senufo art is made by specialized artisans, which may diminish regional stylistic differences. Figures representing the ancestors are common, as are brass miniatures and small statues, which are used in divination. There are several types of masks used by the Poro society…..Art &Life in Africa

Dan Peoples Location: Liberia, Côte d’Ivoire. Dan sculptors mainly produce masks which deal with virtually every element in Dan society, including education, competition, war, peace, social regulation, and of course, entertainment. They also produce stylized wooden spoons and intricate game boards used for mancala, a common game of “count and capture”.

Ancient Nigerian Art

PHOTO 13: Antique art from Nigeria, from the book; “L’Oiseau Dans Ll’arte de Afrique L’Oues”, (Birds in the art of West Africa). PHOTO 14 The Nigerian piece compared with the fossil skulls of pterosaurs and with ancient drawing from Kalimantan.
“Nigeria’s art dates back a long time, over 2000 years by some archeological beliefs. The Nok Terracotta and the Igbo Ukwu are examples of some excavations that have been discovered by archeologists to indicate a highly developed artistic and technologically based civilization.

Some of the really old art found shows very much detail and very distinctive features suggesting technological skills way back when. The Nok art for instance, has many images made from iron-smelting. The Igbo artifacts show skills in bronze and copper utensils as well as sacred objects.

The Ife bronze heads are said to represent some of the past Ooni’s (rulers) of Ife.

The Benin have a lot of ancient artwork that has become famous over different parts of the world, and they can be seen in museums around the world. Most Benin art is made from bronze, though there is art made of other materials.” MotherlandNigeria.com

See Also: Don’t Tell Him He’s Not a Chicken, We need the Eggs

Pteranodon on a Stick: Egyptian “Was” Scepter Creature No Mystery Without Darwinian History

What creature through history and night has that quality of evanescence? What creature stalks the night with wings that glow by bioluminescence?

Crypto, Dinosaurs in Literature, s8int.com, Uncategorized, Unexplained Artifact | Posted by Chris Parker
Sep 12 2009

httpv://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2bkeq8Le54
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This event (first video) took place over Guadalajara, Mexico. The interest in this video and video of a prior event in 2004 is from the UFo front. They are indeed; unidientified flying objects. They appear to pulsate and in several instances seem to employ flapping wings. A closeup of one of the objects that appear to evidence glowing wings is shown here. That appears near the very end of the video.

Evanescence: the event of fading and gradually vanishing from sight

From the poster:

1. It seems to have been filmed on January 28 2005. Less than 1 year after another big fleet UFO sighting on June 10 2004. Also a video, with only 11 UFOs appeared in March of 2004 – when Mexico’s military publicly released the video of UFOs, they reported filming them on March 5, 2004 .
2. There appears to be at least 100 UFOs.

3. When the photographer zooms in at the beginning( the 10 to 40 second mark), there is obvious individual movement of the objects. My question is, are they accelerating or decelerating ? Because they cover a lot of distance fast, if they are accelerating.
4. Is the pack moving from the right to the left side of screen? Or is the pack moving from the left to right of screen. It appears it is moving towards the left of screen to me.
5. The audio, apparently from the photographer, describes them as spheres.
6. Its hard to tell if the objects are really blinking and varying in illumination. Or if it is only an artifact of the camera trying to focus on, from a great distance, many small objects of light at the same time.
7. They seem to be very far away, by the zoom used.
8. The lady in the background from ( 1:20 — 1:40 mark) doesn’t seem too interested =-Þ. “

Similar Unidentified Flying objects over San Francisco Bay in November 2007

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Living Pterosaurs Newsletter 16, by Jonathan Whitcomb

Crypto, Dinosaurs in Literature, s8int.com, Uncategorized | Posted by Chris Parker
Aug 10 2009

August 1, 2009
Living Pterosaurs Newsletter 16
By Jonathan Whitcomb

To living-pterosaur investigators and to those interested in live “pterodactyls”

CONTENTS

“Live Pterosaurs in America” now on sale (The non-fiction book is on Amazon.com)

Press Release: Three reasons American pterosaur sightings are not from hoaxes

“Live Pterosaurs in America” nonfiction book

At last! For a little more than four years, I have compiled testimonies from eyewitnesses who
have seen apparent pterosaurs in the United States. After almost six months of writing, re-writing, and
editing, the book is now published and selling well.

“Live Pterosaurs in America” is a pure cryptozoology book, with the evolution-creation aspect mostly in
one section of the appendix. Few readers should be offended by reading it, but some of the accounts
are shocking. The creatures are not confined to any state or region. They are rare but widespread.

My book is now available on Amazon.com: Live Pterosaurs in America

Please consider purchasing on Amazon, if you would like to help offset the costs of my lengthy investigation. My main direct expense was the 2004 expedition to Papua New Guinea. But the hours I have spent investigating apparent living-pterosaurs, over the years, has now passed 2000.

Because my publisher is closely affiliated with Amazon.com, each book purchase through Amazon
brings much higher royalty compensation than it would through another publisher (such as the one that published “Searching for Ropens.”)

Nevertheless, I am happy to provide a discount code to those who would like to buy more than one copy of the new book. This generous discount is available by direct purchase from the publisher. Please contact me for details, if you would like to buy more than one.

For more information on the book itself: The official web page (Home Page) is at:
Home Page for Live Pterosaurs in America, here

Here is a page comparing LPA with “Searching for Ropens:”

Here are a couple of short excerpts from the book:

Press Release:

“Reports of Living Pterosaurs in U.S. Fail Explanation as Hoaxes, According to Author Jonathan Whitcomb”

Although the title of this recent press release may be misleading (it would have been better for PRfree to have put it “Fail a Hoax-Explanation”), the content is clear: Three separate factors discredit the idea that hoaxes played any significant part in the eyewitness testimonies of apparent pterosaurs in the United States.

Fail Hoax Explanation, here

Back issues of the first eight issues of this newsletter are at:
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Thank you for your interest in living pterosaurs.
Jonathan Whitcomb

Living Pterosaurs Newsletter 15- MonsterQuest Flying Monsters

Crypto, s8int.com, Unexplained Artifact | Posted by Chris Parker
Jul 11 2009

July 9, 2009

Living Pterosaurs newsletter 015
By Jonathan Whitcomb

To living-pterosaur investigators and to those interested in live “pterodactyls”
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CONTENTS
MonsterQuest “Flying Monsters” Broadcast
Scientific Paper Published (Whitcomb)
New Book Nearly Ready For Sale (Amazon.com)
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MonsterQuest “Flying Monsters” on television

The June 3rd show on the History Channel was interesting to me: Never before had I watched four of my friends on television in one night. I was gratified: It introduced many American television viewers to the concept of living pterosaurs. But some things could have been better, for it seemed to emphasize standard-model dogma above eyewitness accounts.

Garth Guessman was a key expedition member with the MonsterQuest team. On New Britain Island, Papua New Guinea, they gathered what I believe was the largest group of natives ever to assist an expedition trek to seek a living pterosaur (here, it is not called “ropen”); even a child or two was carrying luggage. Garth stayed up the first night, while the MonsterQuest team members slept.

Unfortunately the one major sighting was that night, with Garth the only Western eyewitness. And that important sighting was not disclosed in the show.

For those who saw that show, I hope they’ll all eventually come to know details like this: The two camp fires observed far off, that first night (“unknown lights” that were discovered to be camp fires in the morning), were unrelated to the strange light that Garth had seen while the other explorers were
sleeping. That detail was left out of the show, with no hint that anything strange had been observed during the expedition.

Photo:Left to right: Whitcomb, Woetzel, Garthman and Paiva


In addition, this MonsterQuest episode put great stress on the idea that pterosaur sightings in Papau New Guinea may be from misidentifications of bats. That idea is now very outdated: Fruit-bat-explanation was long ago shot down.

The producers or writers appeared to have decided ahead of time that pterosaurs are extinct. The expedition to Papua New Guinea was for making an entertaining television show, not for making a serious scientific investigation.

Aside from those problems, there were a few brief interview clips favoring the idea of extant pterosaurs; this balanced the major opinion emphasized by the show: extinction. Nevertheless, they did show some balance.

To their credit, the show included bits of interviews with the explorers Garth Guessman and Paul Nation, and with the eyewitness Duane Hodgkinson and with the physicist Cliff Paiva. Without those four persons, the show would probably have been a sham; with them, it was fascinating.

For more information:

Ropen or Flying Monster?

I devoted six pages of my new book (in the appendix) to this MonserQuest episode. (“Live Pterosaurs in
America,” nonfiction – see the end of this newsletter)
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Scientific Paper Published in the CRSQ Journal
“Reports of Living Pterosaurs in the Southwest Pacific”

The Creation Research Society Quarterly, Volume 45, Number 3 (Winter 2009) included my article on apparent living Rhamphorhynchoid pterosaurs in Papua New Guinea. This is not the first time something on this subject has been published in a peer-reviewed scientific journal; I know of one other paper written on this (by Mr. David Woetzel, in 2006: “The Fiery Flying Serpent”).

For those who have read the second edition of my book “Searching for Ropens,” my article gives few surprises. But it does include details not present in the book, in particular regarding Hodgkinson’s 1944 sighting. Also, there are several tables that allow quick referencing of sightings and expeditions (also not present in my book). Unfortunately, those who are not members of the Creation Research Society do not have access to most of the articles; but membership is not expensive.

For more information:

Science & Live Pterosaurs
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NEW BOOK: “Live Pterosaurs in America”

Much shorter than my previous book (SFR), at 102 pages of content, it still packs many eyewitness accounts, the vast majority of which have never before been published. The approach differs from SFR, in that it is primarity a cryptozoological book rather than a spiritual-religious-cryptozoological one. Nevertheless, part of the appendix deals with the creationist aspects of the investigations, without which there would not have been any expeditions and therefore nobody who would have reported their eyewitness accounts to me.

In the last newsletter, many paragraphs described one aspect of the American eyewitness accounts regarding the elimination of the hoax-explanation. Since then, while continuing to write the book, I found two more aspects of the overall testimonies that disprove that a hoax or hoaxes played any significant part in those accounts. All three methods are explained in the book.

At $12.50, the nonfiction will be available on Amazon, but not on many other sites. It should be ready for ordering sometime between July 11th and August 7th, depending on potential last-minute correctioins [make that "corrections"].

For now, see:

Live Pterosaurs in America – Excerpts from the book
Book: Live Pterosaurs in America

Live Pterosaurs in America – the book by Jonathan Whitcomb

LPA – The Book
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The archive of the previous newsletter (014), Which includes “Elimination of Hoax-Explanation,” is found at: http://www.laattorneyvideo.com/nonlegal/pterosaurs/newsletters/014/
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Back issues of the first eight issues of this newsletter are at:

http://www.laattorneyvideo.com/nonlegal/pterosaurs/newsletters/contents-001-008/

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Thank you for your interest in living pterosaurs.
Jonathan Whitcomb
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