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Ancient South American Tri Cryptozoological Mystery: De Loys’ Ape, Mono Grande (Great Ape) or Bigfoot from 1500 B.C.?

Church of Darwin, Crypto, s8int.com, Unexplained Artifact | Posted by Chris Parker
Nov 08 2012


By Chris Parker

A story about Bigfoot seems a bit far afield for one who spends a great amount of time looking for evidence that men and dinosaurs lived together as indicated by a copious amount of ancient art. It’s not a typical topic of a Christian poster (although Ken Griffith, my webmaster is into it).

I’m a bit ambivalent about bigfoot.

How should a Christian feel about the possible discovery of another primate out there in the world that seems very close to man? About the same as he should have felt about the mythological gorilla that wasn’t scientifically discovered until 1847 and the even larger, mythological mountain gorillas of equatorial Africa that weren’t discovered until 1901.

Now, did evolutionists suggest that the gorilla was another link in the evolutionary chain to man? Sure they did. However, the quoted 95% to 99% similarity to man quoted for chimps and gorillas only relates to the 2% of DNA that codes for protein. The other 98% of DNA which has now found to be functional and not junk bears no resemblance to the DNA of man. In short, should bigfoot prove to exist, he will simply be another animal that God has placed under the dominion of man.

Officially and according to science there never were “great apes” in South America—now or in the ancient past. However, there have been a number of reported sightings of large apelike creatures over the years.

Mono Grande, The De Loys Ape (Ameranthropoides loysi) and other Alleged South American Sightings-from Wikipedia

Photo:Right: De Loy’s Ape

“The Mono Grande (Spanish for “Large Monkey”), a large monkey-like creature, has been occasionally reported in South America. Such creatures are reported as being much larger than the commonly accepted new world monkeys.

These accounts have received rather little publicity, and typically generated little or no interest from mainstream experts, but have received some notice in cryptozoology.

Older Sightings Perhaps the first formal record of such creatures called “marimondas” or “maribundas” comes from 1533, when Pedro Cieza de León reported sightings from natives and from one Spanish settler. In his writings, Sir Walter Raleigh made brief note of reports of large monkey-like creatures in South America. He did not see such a creature himself, but deemed them credible, noting the ubiquity and consistency of reports.

The German naturalist Alexander von Humboldt, who travelled in South America during early 19th century, heard stories from Orinoco about furry human-like creatures called Salvaje (“Wild”),

Modern reports and Sightings The so-called Loys’ Ape was photographed in 1920; but critics of the photograph allege that it was simply a spider monkey, while others believe it could be an unknown creature.

In 1931, inspired by Loys’ ape, three Italians made an expedition to the Mazaruni River in Guyana, but without further evidence than more alleged sightings from the residents. Bengt Sjögren writes (1980) that: “They returned home with a couple of eyewitness-reports, that give the impression that the interviewer tried to make fun of them.

An American millionaire also set up a reward of 50,000 dollars to the one who could find a specimen, but nobody seems to have claimed the reward. The American scientist Philip Herschkowitz, who traveled in the same areas as de Loys, concluded that the story was a myth whose origin was the spider monkey, Ateles belzebuth.

However, in 1951, a Frenchman named Roger Courteville claimed to have seen an apeman at the same river (Tarra[disambiguation needed]) where de Loys said he had seen his creatures. Like de Loys, he presented a photograph of the creature as evidence. According to Sjögren (1980) the photo was a hoax, a manipulated version of de Loys photograph.”

The Crux of the Matter: An “Abstract” Ancient Sculpture which could Depict Mono Grande, De Loys’ Ape, Bigfoot or Some Combination of All Three?
This artifact is from the Alamito Culture of Northern Argentina which flourished there between 400 B.C. and 700 A.D. according to the experts.


The Alamito culture was closely related to the Condorhuasi culture in the province of Catamarca. They were llama shepherds who created some very modern looking anthropomorphic scultpture/pottery figurines now known as “supplicants”… Source LandofWinds-Blog..

The specific description of this particular piece from the Museo Nacional de Belle Artes which moves the date back as far as 1,500 B.C. follows: Source: Museovivos.educ

Anthropomorphic Figure-1500 B.C. to 300 A.D.


Since 2005, the NMFA has a room dedicated to the works of native peoples who inhabited the present territory part of Peru and northwestern Mexico, before the arrival of the Spanish.

Images like this anthropomorphic figure may have been part of ritual practices linked to ancestor worship. They were called “pleading” an arbitrary designation based on the attitude of the human figures represented, and are one of the most original of these cultures.

(Photo:Left to Right:Gorilla, abstract sculpture as much as 3,500 years old and the Patterson bigfoot.)


From the formal point of view, are characterized by the way they represent synthetically members: arms and legs are unified by involving space curves. Thus, the gaze travels voids polished interacting with matter. Perhaps it was this stylization and this game spaces which aroused the admiration twentieth century artists expressed by these figures.

This piece belongs to Alamito culture, a people who inhabited the province of Catamarca”…translated

So, De Loy’s ape, Mono Grande, bigfoot, or neither? With those shoulders and that visage I suppose it does represent something like one of the above. None of the above was supposed to have been around to serve as a model for an ancient tribe in Northern, Argentina.

I’m ambivalent but here is another version of an ancient, “South American Mono Grande/Saquatch/Yeti/Bigfoot.

Unknown Ancient Monuments in Colorado?

Church of Darwin, Uncategorized, Unexplained Artifact | Posted by Chris Parker
May 07 2011

Is this an ancient monument from some ancient civilization or simply a case of versimultude? Reader simply says that he took these photos while hiking somewhere in Colorado.

“I live in Grand junction Colorado USA
The henot d statue is about 5 1/2 foot tall or so.
The full body status is around 20 foot tall.
There is a lot of other stuff around the area, Some of it is Spanish I think?
Can anyone tell me anything about them?

He did have coordinates or a specific location for the “monuments” but says that he knows where they are.

Update: Mystery of the 2nd and 3rd Century Roman Dodecahedron

s8int.com, Sophistication of Ancestors, Unexplained Artifact | Posted by Chris Parker
Feb 10 2009

When someone makes a comment on an old entry, generally no one knows about it but us. We hope to update the blog so that recent comments appear on the front page but that functionality doesn’t exist at this time. This is a fairly detailed explanation of one’s persons hypothesis about the usage of the Dodecahedron. The original article is here.

Original Blog Post with Comments

“In my website dodecaeder.nl yoy wil find a new theory for the use of the dodecahedron, together with experimental support. Shortly summarized, my new theory can be described as followed: the dodecahedron was an astronomic measuring instrument with which the angle of the sunlight can be measured and thereby one specific date in springtime, and one date in the autumn can be determined with accuracy.

The dates that can be measured were probably of importance for the agriculture. The sowing date of winter grain is important for the achievement of optimal produce. Therefore I anticipate that the dodecahedron would only be used in autumn time.

The functioning of the dodecahedron as a measuring device is based on the angle of the sun on the highest point of the day. In a calendar year, the earth travels completely around the sun (365 ¼ day).

The angle of the earth opposite the sun changes during the year in a sinus rhythm. The sun gets to the highest position around June 21, when the sun reaches the tropic of Cancer (degree of latitude N 23°.27?) and the lowest point will be reached around December 22, when the sun reaches the tropic of Capricorn. (degree of latitude Z 23°.27?).

The vernal equinoctial point and the autumnal equinoctial point are at respectively March 21 and September 23, when the sun has reached the level of the equator. The angle which the sunlight makes with the earth is subjected to the degree of latitude where one is.

As an example, take the city of Maastricht, located at N 50°.52?. At March 12 and September 23, the largest angle which the sunlight makes with the earth in Maastricht, is 90° – 50°.52? = 39°.08?. On June 21, it is 90° – (50°.52?-23°.27?) = 62°.35? and on December 22, it is 90° – (50°.52?+23°.27?) = 16°.41?.

When one is able to determine the angle which the sunlight makes with earth, one is actually measuring the date quite accurately. According to my hypotheses, the use of the dodecahedron is based on this knowledge.”

Sjra Wagemans
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