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Its just a bird is your belief? Well hold up a second Chief, I’ll make my rebuttal brief, Don’t you know birdies don’t have teeth?

Uncategorized | Posted by Chris Parker
Jul 10 2009

Photo: Mochica Culture vase replica and modern depictons of a pterosaur. Photo by Oscar Miranda.

Mochica Culture

Ancient Native American civilization on the coast of N Peru. Previously called Early Chimu (see Chimu), the Mochica were warriors with a highly developed social and political organization.

They built temples, pyramids, and aqueducts of adobe brick, were skilled in irrigation, and produced remarkable ceramics. In their stirrup jars, painted with scenes of everyday life, and their figure-modeled portrait jars they revealed fantasy and humor and achieved an astonishing fidelity to human forms.

Photo: Ancient Mochica vase compared with pterosaur skull with teeth. Click photo for larger and more detailed view.

The civilization, which began c.100 B.C., is believed to have lasted 1,000 years….Source: Answers.com

Birds Don’t Have Teeth

Modern birds are characterised by feathers, a beak with no teeth, the laying of hard-shelled eggs, a high metabolic rate, a four-chambered heart, and a lightweight but strong skeleton. All birds have forelimbs modified as wings and most can fly, with some exceptions including ratites, penguins, and a number of diverse endemic island species.

Birds also have unique digestive and respiratory systems that are highly adapted for flight. Some birds, especially corvids and parrots, are among the most intelligent animal species; a number of bird species have been observed manufacturing and using tools, and many social species exhibit cultural transmission of knowledge across generations….wikipedia

Living “Pre-Historic” Creatures Reported in Papua New Guinea; Monckton’s “Gazeka” Positively Identified, Theropod Dinosaur Verified– by Native Art?

Crypto, Dinosaurs in Literature, s8int.com, Science, Unexplained Artifact | Posted by Chris Parker
Mar 14 2009

by Chris Parker, Copyright 2009 s8int.com

Photo:Similar to Modern Sighting

Papua New Guinea is a huge Island north of Australia, the home itself of some fairly unusual fauna. Brian Irwin is an Australian who recently visited Papua New Guinea where he met a number of residents of small islands of West New Britain, who had recently seen huge creatures which, if accurate must describe living dinosaurs. These sightings have been occurring since the early 1990’s.

Irwin detailed these new eyewitness accounts in a story he wrote about them entitled “Theropod and sauropod dinosaurs sighted in Papua New Guinea?”

More about these recent sightings shortly, however first we wanted to recount the story of the huge creature which was seen and described by scientists on Papua New Guinea back approximately 100 years ago.

According to an article in the Steven’s Point Wisconsin Gazette of August 31, 1910, “one of the most remarkable scientific discoveries ever made” was reported from the “wilds” of New Guinea. According to the article, a “prehistoric monster” much larger than an elephant had been discovered and encountered not by common folks like me and you, but by “scientists”.

In addition, to the “giant monster”,the scientists had come across a “marvelous race of pigmies” who averaged just over four feet in height.

According to the article; “the expedition was sent out by a committee appointed by the British Ornithologist’s union to explore the great Snow mountains in Dutch New Guinea, and consists of several famous scientists, headed by Walter Goodfellow, the naturalist.”

“According to the official reports, the Gazeka is of gigantic size and fearsome aspect. It is black and white striped, has the nose of a tapir and “a face like the devil.”

Among the English inhabitants of the island, the animal is known as Monckton’s Gazeka, in honor of Mr. C. A. W. Monckton, a former explorer In New Guinea, who first reported its presence in the mountains.

Mr. Monckton, during his ascent of Mount Albert Edward, in the west of British New Guinea, discovered the huge footprints and other indications of the very recent presence of some tremendous monster that had evidently been prowling on the grassy plains surrounding the lakes on the summit at an elevation of about 12,500 feet.

He followed the trail all day, and came upon the monster at dusk, just as it was devastating a settlement of the pigmies.

The little natives were screaming and running for their lives, although they turned every now and again to aim their poisoned arrows at the brute.

Monckton let fire as soon as he was able to get in a proper position, and the huge Gazeka at once turned upon him. As it reared upon its hind legs and pawed the air it looked to the hunter as big as a house, standing fully 25 feet high.

Two of Monckton’s bullets seemed to take effect, as a stream of blood flowed freely from the animal’s shoulder, but before Monckton was able to reload the animal turned and fled. By that time it was too dark to follow him, and Monckton never had another opportunity to renew his pursuit

In the Remainder of this article, we provide larger photos, positively identify “Monckton’s gazeka” and bolster witness accounts of a dinosaur sighting with native art-Click Here or Photo at the top of this post, above

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Shang Dynasty, Jade Piece is a Lambeosaurine Dinosaur?

Crypto, Dinosaurs in Literature, s8int.com, Science, Unexplained Artifact | Posted by Chris Parker
Mar 06 2009

This objet d’art is posted for sale on the internet. The text at the bottom of this post is a verbatim quote from the site. It is the opinion of the sellers of this ancient Shang Dynasty object that it is a representation of a dinosaur. There suggestion was tyrannosaur but we think that it very closely matches the lambeosaurine dinosaurs.(This piece now is in the Genesis Park Collection)

Charonosaurus, saurolophus and parasaurolophus were three very large lambeosaurine dinosaurs which are virtually indistinquishable from each other, at least as interpreted by artists and scientists today. All three of them had backwards pointing crests similar to the crest/horn depicted by the Chinese artist of the Shang Dynasty between 1766 BC and 1122 BC.

Here we compare the ancient Chinese piece with several depictions of lambeosaurine dinosaurs selected to most closely resemble the posture and position of the jade, Shang Dynasty piece. It will be noted that the smaller front legs aren’t depicted on the piece due to what we assume is “artistic license”. Even so, we maintain that it is fairly easy to identify the piece.

Photo:parasaurolophus, left. Shang Dynasty piece, middle, parasaurolophus right.

The similarity between this ancient piece and modern depictions of these tree hadrosaurine dinosaurs is too close to be a coincidence; the dermal crest, the backwards pointing crest and the ability to walk bipedally on two large, powerful legs.

This “dinosaur” features scaled skin and a long tail that helped the bipedal dinosaurs balance themselves. It appears as though these lambesaurine dinosaurs, which lived on the North American continent as well as in Asia continued to live at least between 3,700 and 3,100 years ago.

“Charonosaurus is a very large lambeosaurine hadrosaur (estimated around 10.8 m (36 ft) long), known from a partial skull (Holotype: CUST J-V1251-57 (Changchun University of Sciences and Technology, Changchun, Jilin Province, China)) found in the Late Maastrichtian Yuliangze Formation, west of Jiayin village, Heilongjiang Province, northeastern China.

Adult and juvenile hadrosaur remains discovered in the same area and formation likely represent the same taxon and supply information on most of the postcranial skeleton; the femur length was up to 1.35 m. (4.5 ft).

Charonosaurus is one of the largest hadrosaurs currently known from Asia and indicates that lambeosaurines survived till the very end of the Cretaceous (lambeosaurines are not known from the Late Maastrichtian in North America)”…..wikipedia.org

Saurolophus is a genus of large hadrosaurine duckbill that lived about 70 million years ago, in the Late Cretaceous of North America (Canada) and Asia (Mongolia); it is one of the few genera of dinosaurs known from multiple continents.

It is distinguished by a spike-like crest which projects up and back from the skull. Saurolophus was a herbivorous dinosaur which could move about either bipedally or quadrupedally.

The type species, S. osborni, was described by Barnum Brown in 1912. The other valid species, S. angustirostris, lived in Asia, and was described by Anatoly Konstantinovich Rozhdestvensky. A third species is considered dubious.

Photo:saurolophus, left. Shang Dynasty piece, right.

Parasaurolophus, left, Shang Dynasty piece, middle and parasaurolophus right. As a hadrosaurid, Saurolophus would have been a bipedal/quadrupedal herbivore, eating a variety of plants. Its skull permitted a grinding motion analogous to chewing, and its teeth were continually replacing and packed into dental batteries that contained hundreds of teeth, only a relative handful of which were in use at any time.

Plant material would have been cropped by its broad beak, and held in the jaws by a cheek-like organ. Its feeding range would have extended from the ground to ~4 meter (13 ft) above. Common S. angustirostris would have been an important large herbivore in the Nemegt Formation, but S. osborni was rare in the Horseshoe Canyon Formation and faced competition from other duckbills (Edmontosaurus and Hypacrosaurus).

Crest

The distinctive spike-like crest of Saurolophus has been interpreted in multiple ways, and could have had multiple functions. Brown compared it to the crest of a chameleon, and suggested it could provide an area for muscle attachment and a connection point for a nonbody back frill like that seen in the basilisk lizard. Peter Dodson interpreted similar features in other duckbills as having use in sexual identification.

Maryaska and Osmska, noting the hollow base, suggested that the crest increased the surface area of the respiratory cavity, and helped in thermoregulation. James Hopson supported a function as a visual signal, and further mentioned the possibility that there were inflatable skin flaps over the nostrils that could have acted as resonators and additional visual signals.”…..Wikipedia

Gallery Description

Price: $100,000

“Shang Dynasty, (1766 BC and 1122 BC), Jade dinosaur H. 39cm, W. 14kgs

Some believe the mythical Chinese dragon may be the dinosaur in the Gretaceous Period. The Chinese character of Dragon has been formed by the pattern derivation which must base some thing in the real world.

If this is true, then the ancient Chinese must see the live dinosaur to compose the dragon character.

The shape of ancient character of dragon looks like the shape of dinosaur. Tyrannosaurus is the major dinosaur family of the Gretaceous period. Tyrannosaurus was one of the largest terrestrial carnivores of all time. It stood approximately 15 feet high and was about 40 feet in length, roughly six tons in weight.

In its large mouth were six-inch long, sharp, serrated teeth. The artifact has the simplified design of tyrannosaurus with only two legs.

The typical relief auspicious cloud lines in the Shang dynasty. It is made of white color nephrite with phenomena of differential weathering, cleaving veins and earth penetration.

http://www.palaceantique.com/

Contact
Adviser: Dr. Eugene Huang
PhD, Cornell University
Associate Researcher, Institute of Earth Sciences, Acadamia Sinica
Curator: Chen Ming Chieh (Mitchell Chen)”

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True and Wonderful: A Discourse Relating a Strange and Monstrous Serpent (or Dragon) Lately Discovered, and Yet Living, to the Great Annoyance and Divers Slaughters both of Men and Cattell

Crypto, Dinosaurs in Literature, s8int.com, Science, Unexplained Artifact | Posted by Chris Parker
Dec 24 2008

TRUE AND WONDERFULL

A Discourse relating

A STRANGE AND MONSTROUS
SERPENT, OR DRAGON,

Lately Discoyered and yet living to the great Annoyance and divers Slaugh
ters both Men and Cattell, by his strong and violent Poyson.

In Sussex, two Miles from Horsam, in a Woode called St. Leonards Forrest, and thirtie
Miles from London, this present Month of August, 1614.

Printed at London, by John Trundle,
1614.

To THE READER.

THE just reward of him that is accustomed to lie, is not, to be believed when he speaketh the truth : so just an occasion may sometimes be imposed upon the pamphleting pressers; and therefore, if we receive the same reward, we cannot much blame our accusers, which often falls out either by our forward credulity to but-seeming true reports, or by false copies translated from other languages, which (though we beget not) we foster, and our shame is little the less.

But, passing by what’s past, let not our present truth blush for any former falsehood sake : the country is near us, Sussex; the time present, August; the subject, a Serpent ; strange, yet now a neighbour to us ; and it were more than impudence to forge a lie so near home, that every man might turn in our throats ; believe it, or read it not, or read it (doubting) for I believe ere thou hast read this
little all, thou wilt not doubt of one, but believe there are many serpents in England.

Farewell.

By A. R.
He that would send better news, if he had it.

A DISCOURSE

A STRANGE AND MONSTROUS
SERPENT OR DRAGON.

IN Sussex, there is a pretty market-town called Horsham, near unto it a forest, called St. Leonards forest, and there, in a vast and unfrequented place, heathy, vaulty, full of unwholesome shades, and overgrown hollows, where this serpent is thought to be bred ; but, wheresoever bred, certain and too true it is that there it yet lives.

Within three or four miles compass are its usual haunts, oftentimes at a place called Faygate, and it hath been seen within half a mile of Horsham, a wonder, no doubt, most terrible and noisome to the inhabitants thereabouts. There is always in his track or path left a glutinous and slimy matter (as by a small similitude we may perceive in a snail’s) which is very corrupt and offensive to the scent, insomuch that they perceive the air to be putrified withal, which must needs be very dangerous.

For though the corruption of it cannot strike the outward part of a man, unless heated into his blood, yet by receiving it in at any of our breathing organs (the mouth or nose) it is by authority of all authors, writing in that kind, mortal and deadly, as one thus saith : Noxia serpentum est admixto sanguine pestis.

The serpent, or dragon, as some call it, is reputed to be nine feet, or rather more, in length, and shaped almost in the form of an axletree of a cart, a quantity of thickness in the midst, and somewhat smaller at both ends. The former part, which he shoots forth as a neck, is supposed to be an ell long, with a white ring, as it were, of scales about it.

The scales along his back seem to be blackish, and so much as is discovered under his belly appeareth to be red ; for I speak of no nearer description than of a reasonable occular distance.

For coming too near it hath already been too dearly paid for, as you shall hear hereafter. It is likewise discovered to have large feet, but the eye may be there deceived ; for some suppose that serpents have no feet, but glide upon certain ribs and scales, which both defend them from the upper part of their throat unto the lower part of their belly, and also cause them to move much the faster.

For so this doth, and rids way, as we call it as fast as a man can run. He is of countenance very proud, and, at the sight or hearing of men or cattle, will raise his neck upright, and seem to listen and look about, with arrogancy. There are likewise on either side of him discovered two great bunches so big as a large foot-ball, and, as some think, will in time grow to wings ; but God, I hope, will defend the poor people in the neighbourhood, that he shall be destroyed before he grow so fledged.

He will cast his venom about four rod from him, as by woeful experience it was proved on the bodies of a man and woman coming that way, who afterwards were found dead, being poisoned and very much swelled, but not preyed upon.

Likewise a man going to chase it and, as he imagined, to destroy it, with two mastiff dogs, as yet not knowing the great danger of it, his dogs were both killed, and he himself glad to return with haste to preserve his own life. Yet this is to be noted, that the dogs were not preyed upon, but slain and left whole ; for his food is thought to be, for the most part, in a cony- warren, (rabbit warren) which he much frequents, and it is found much scanted and impaired in the increase it had wont to afford.

These persons, whose names are hereunder printed, have seen this serpent, beside divers others, as the carrier of Horsham, who lieth at the White Horse, in South wark, and who can certify the truth of all that has been here related.

JOHN STEELE.
CHRISTOPHER HOLDER.
And a Widow Woman dwelling near Faygate.

Online Readable Copy of Original 1614 Pamphlet

Two Ancient Drawings Show Man and Dinosaur Together

Crypto, Dinosaurs in Literature, s8int.com, Science, Sophistication of Ancestors, Unexplained Artifact | Posted by Chris Parker
Aug 14 2008

George S. kindly forwarded us the following e-mail about a drawing he thought we might find interesting. We do!

“I visited the Three rivers Pertoglyph site this spring, but didn’t have time to scrutinize the whole of it, so when I found someone had posted their pictures I took the time to peruse them.
They had one labled: “Impossible, but It sure looks to me like someone is hunting a dinosaur with a flaming club!” …and it does!!!! Wish I had found it! ”

There are over 21,000 petroglyphs at the Three Rivers Petroglyph Site at Three Rivers, New Mexico located midway between Tularosa and Carrizozo in Otero County on highway 54. Many of the petroglyphs can be easily viewed from a trail open to the public which winds through the rocks for about one mile. The petroglyphs are thought to be the product of the Jornada Mogollon people between about 1000 and 1400 AD. The site is protected and maintained by the Bureau of Land Management.

The petroglyphs at Three Rivers were recorded during a 6 year project by the Archaeological Society of New Mexico’s Rock Art Recording Field Schools. Photographs and records are on file at the Bureau of Land Management’s District Office in Las Cruces….Wikipedia

Here is the original site where a larger photo of the petroglyph –along with others–can be found

Man and Dinosaur Together in China

Previously, here, we noted the close similarity of the Ishtar Gate “Dragon”, (604-562 BC) to images of similar creatures from the Egyptians (2600 B.C. and older), the Han Dynasty (206 B.C. to 220 A.D.) as well as Tang Dynasty (618-906 A.D.)the Sung Dynasty (1127-1279A.D) and possibly others.

This was evidence that the creature was real and not mythological. The representations of the creature were consistent across time and geographical location. We had even offered some suggestions concerning it’s identification based on fossil dinosaur re-creations.

The drawing above is of a Han Dynasty Motif showing a man hunting this Egypto/Assyrian?Chinese dragon with what appears to be a sling or a bolo weapon. Further evidence, we believe that this was in fact a real creature.

Click Here to see prior article and for more detail on the drawing by Lampo Leung.

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