Photo: Dr. Requena reports finding artifacts of an unknown, advanced civilization in Venezuela who had sculpted extinct creatures incuding several versions of the diplodocus dinosaur. Modern Mechanix, 1934
by Chris Parker, Copyright 2011
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“Lift up your eyes on high, and behold who hath created these things, that bringeth out their host by number: He calleth them all by names by the greatness of His might, for that He is strong in power; not one faileth” (Isaiah 40:26).
Charles Darwinâ€™s book; â€śThe Origin of the Species; was written back in 1859. The word â€śdinosaurâ€ť had been coined a few years earlier, in 1841 by Sir Richard Owen.
I began a review of the dinosaur and man controversy in the press after that time thinking that perhaps the world of science and news reporting would have still been rather naive and innocent for a time and still willing to report things as they were discovered-without the filter and hold that Darwinism currently holds over both.
Actually, the Darwin free â€śhoneymoon periodâ€ť proved to be remarkably short, however, scientists did make reports during this period that would ruin the reputation of anyone making such â€śscientificâ€ť claims today.
Some say that you canâ€™t prove a negative; what is true is that when you make a negative proposition, i.e. â€śblue fairies donâ€™t existâ€ť, the breadth of that statement is universal, while the positive (opposing) side of that argument, i.e. â€śblue fairies do existâ€ť only has to be shown to be true in one place in the universe to be correct and to simultaneously prove the â€śnegative propositionâ€ť incorrect.
Photo: Mesopotamian Cylinder Seal showing sauropods from 300 B.C. The Lovre.
Another example of this type is the proposition that man and dinosaur never interacted. In fact, according to science, they missed each other by 65 million years. This negative proposition must be universal to be true; that is, man and dinosaur never interacted at any time or in any place in this universe.
For the opposing proposition to be true; that man and dinosaur did coexist- it need only be proved that they in fact, did interact at least in one instance at one time and at one place anywhere in the universe.
But we have proof of much more than a single instance in the newspapers and magazines that existed prior to the complete establishment of the Darwin filter.
Advanced Civilization in Venezuela Lived with Dinosaurs
Special Correspondence to the New York Times, Caracas, June 5, 1932 PUBLISHED JUNE, 12 1932
DATES EARLY MAN BACK 8,000 YEARS
Dr. Requena Holds Discoveries Indicate Venezuela Was Civilizationâ€™s Cradle
Found Fossilized Skullsâ€”Lake Valencia Relics Show That Makers Were Familiar With Prehistoric Animals
In the early 1930â€™s Dr. Rafael Requena was an anthropologist affiliated with Academy of Physical and Mathematical Sciences, National Library, National Congress, Central University of Venezuela.
From the above named article:
â€śEvidence that Venezuela was the cradle of civilization is offered in a volume on his archaeological discoveries which is being published by Dr. Rafael Requena, private secretary to President General Gomez. The publication of this book will lift the veil of secrecy which has shrouded Dr. Requenaâ€™s discoveries since they were announced briefly a year ago.
Most startling among the relics unearthed by Dr. Requena from the ancient tombs that dot the shores of Lake Valencia are images of pre-historic animals.
Among these, well sculptured in clay and kiln baked, are models of the diplodocus, a four footed monster with a goose-shaped body, surmounted by a dorsal fin, the neck of a giraffe and the jaws of a crocodile; a gliptodante, a squat four-footed beast with a hideous frog shaped head, bulging eyes and two rows of humps along its back; the prehistoric marine turtle and its equally great land-loving brother and carved from stone, the head of a hadrosaurus.
Alongside these relics were discovered the jaw bone of a dinosaur and pieces of the armor plate of the hadrosaurusâ€¦â€ť
Photo:Closeup and comparison of one of Requena’s sauropods. From photo at top of page.
The article goes on to mention that the skulls of the people found at the location had been fossilized. Dr. Requena noted that there appeared to be a high degree of civilization that preceded all other South American civilizations. Dr. Requena, assuming that the current scientific thinking re the age of the dinosaurs was correct, and finding numerous examples of sculptured dinosaurs, reasoned that the civilization and the dinosaurs must have been from 250 million years prior.
In his book he endeavored to link the ancient civilization to Atlantis.
The April, 1934 issue of Modern Mechanix, ran an article about Dr. Requena and his archaelogical discoveries in an article entitled; â€śScientists Find Traces of Two Lost Continentsâ€ť. The pictures that accompany this portion of our article on dinosaurs and man in historical press accounts comes from the Modern Mechanix article.
From that article:
â€śDOWN through the ages, man has hung to the words of Plato. For Plato told of a great continent, Atlantis by name, which slipped under the waters of the sea, carrying with it an entire civilization.
Recent discoveries point to the fact that approximately 250,000,000 years ago, South America, Africa, India, Australia and a great portion of the Antarctic region were a single continent.
Similar discoveries reveal the existence, until about the same period, of a North Atlantis, a sort of super-continent, which ran from the present western shores of North America to the British Isles, and possibly connected, by a few small peninsulas, with Europe.
Mysterious prehistoric rock writing, recently found in Venezuela by Dr. Rafael Requena, is believed to be the work of people who lived on the lost South Atlantis. In addition to the writings, Dr. Requena has found many relics of a by-gone culture.
They include small statues of humans, with males and females easily distinguished and replicas of animals, many of which resemble the strange dinosaurs which have been dug up in other portions of the world.â€ť
Well, thatâ€™s it, right?
The one instance in the world of scientifically verified interaction between man and dinosaur that disproves the proposition that man and dinosaur never lived together? After all, there wasnâ€™t just a single piece that perhaps could have been misinterpreted; there were several sculptures of “diplodocuses” in various poses and sculptures of other dinosaurs and extinct creatures; not discovered by some nameless amateur but by a scientist?
Unfortunately, not as far as â€śscienceâ€ť is concerned.
On the same continent, over 17,000 and counting â€śIca Stonesâ€ť discovered in 1966 near Ica, Peru; many displaying drawings of dinosaurs and technology such as telescopes etc. and 32,000 Acambaro figurines, many in the shapes of dinosaurs and other extinct or fantastic creatures discovered in 1944 in Acambaro, Mexico have also been ignored by the scientific community.
Dinosaurs and Man in the Gobi Desert
â€śRoy Chapman Andrews (January 26, 1884 â€“ March 11, 1960) was an American explorer, adventurer and naturalist who became the director of the American Museum of Natural History. He is primarily known for leading a series of expeditions through the fragmented China of the early 20th century into the Gobi Desert and Mongolia. The expeditions made important discoveries and brought the first-known fossil dinosaur eggs to the museum.â€ť Wikipedia
This next series of articles deals with the discoveries of Roy Chapman Andrews in the Gobi desert. Andrews was a well known adventurer scientist of his day whose adventures often made the front pages of the New York Times and newspapers and magazines across the country and the world. It is important to realize that Andrews was not outside of the scientific mainstream but was a part of it. He was always associated with the American Museum of Natural History.
Explorer Finds Remarkable Tools of Stone-Age People
Roy Chapman Andrews, Back from China Describes Prehistoric Life
Miami Herald, August 25, 1925
â€śStone implements and weapons of a race of men who lived thousands of years ago among sand dunes on the shore of a lake since swallowed up by the Gobi desert have been found far in the interior of Mongolia by the third Asiatic expedition of the American Museum of Natural Historyâ€¦â€¦
â€¦These primitive men bored the shells and made ornaments of the eggs laid by the dinosaur, the giant reptile that roamed the Asiatic uplands some 10,000,000 years agoâ€¦.â€ť
In case you missed it, Chapman believes that man lived with dinosaurs in ages past because they had made ornaments out of dinosaur eggs, something that could only be accomplished with unfossilized dinosaur eggs!
Glasgow Herald, September 9, 1925
â€śAmong the most unique of these discoveries were the various clutches of dinosaurâ€™s eggs, which were unearthed to the number of forty this year and thirty last.â€¦
â€¦.Fragmentary dinosaurâ€™s eggs figure also among the human relics, for a number of pieces were found which had been cut in regular shapes, presumably to form ornaments for prehistoric belles.â€ť
Humans Coeval with Dinosaur (Coeval: of the same or equal age, antiquity, or duration)
The Spokesman-Review – Aug 19, 1925
Photo: The Mongolians drilled and cracked dinosaur egg shells as well as ostrich egg shells to make jewelry. Ostrich eggshell jewelry is shown here.
â€śâ€¦These primitive men bored the shells and made ornaments of the eggs left by the dinosaurâ€¦..They used for the same purpose the egg shells of a gigantic ostrich, long ago extinctâ€ť.
Mr. Andrews went on to date the age of the Mongolian dinosaur civilization back to 25 million years ago as science came to move the age of the dinosaurs back further in time. Clearly the Mongolians were coeval with the dinosaurs whenever it was that they lived. Calling them primitive even though no human remains were found was their way of trying to preserve some kind of evolutionary order.
Only 50,000 Years Old
The Meriden Daily Journal – Jun 18, 1925
â€śMoscowâ€”Two human skeletons of the Neanderthal type, believed to be at least 50,000 years old recently found in a cave near Crimea.
The skeletons of dinosaurs, hyenas and bears were also found in the cave.â€ť
Prehistoric Game Found
Monsters With Which Ante-dilluvian Man Contended
The Turners Falls Reporter – Dec 16, 1908
â€śThe remains of the Dryopitheous or fossil man discovered on the Bengawan River, in Java mixed as they were with fossil bones of reptiles of the Cainozoic (SIC) age, and lying in the cretaceous strata, clearly prove that man was contemporary with the later of the giant Saurians.
Moreover, the discovery of the Nampa image, a piece of handiwork found in the cretaceous strata in Ada county, Idaho would imply that he had attained some slight degree of art. Assuming then that man was living in the Cainozoic (SIC) age, the question is, how did he survive his acquaintanceship with the gigantic Sauriansâ€¦.â€ť
Confirms Story of Prehistoric Finds in Kenya Colonyâ€”U.S. Anthropologist Says Bones Prove Theory of Manâ€™s First Habitat
In Stone Age Deposit
The Montreal Gazette – Sep 24, 1927
â€śâ€¦.the Cutler dinosaur expedition to Tanganyika, who in six weeks found seven skulls at Nakeru in a Stone Age deposit, and also unearthed a complete skeleton of a six foot man buried twelve feet deep with more than 100 stone tools. Dr. Collie gave a pledge to the discoverer not to discuss the details of the Kenya find until after Dr. Leaky (yes that Dr. Leaky) has published them this fall.
He stressed the importance of the discovery because of the apparently inexhaustible supply of these remains, and the fact that traces of dinosaurs were found. Mr. Leaky was acting for the Royal Society and the Cambridge School of Anthropology, where he is a lecturer.â€ť
Petrified Footprints of Man Assured Museum
Evidence of Human Life on American Continent Millions of Years Ago Offers Basis for Speculation
The Deseret News – Jul 24, 1934
â€śHere are the footprints of the Huntington Man claimed by scientists to have roamed the wilds of Utah nearly 200 million years ago. You will note that the foot widens out at the toes, indicating that the owner of these footprints must have had to walk on soft or miry ground. The prints are almost a foot long, and more than five inches across the toes. The deep mark at the side of the footprints was probably made by the head of a flint spear, resting on marshy ground.
â€¦.If these footprints were made when the sand of this period were soft then man must have been there to make them! So if you can, envision wild and woolly men riding tamed herbiverous dinosaurs racing up and down the countryâ€¦â€¦â€ť
In this gentler, less dogmatic Darwinist time, science appeared to be willing to admit that man and dinosaur interacted. The time difficulty enters in because they still accepted the Darwinist geological time scale. When was sandstone formed they believed; 200 million years ago. Therefore they reasoned, man must have been alive 200 million years ago-along with the dinosaurs.
The truth is that the rock formed and the man left his prints and dinosaurs all lived within the last few thousand years.
Unearthed Image Presents a Puzzle
The Calgary Daily Herald – Aug 6, 1924
â€śA rock image lately unearthed near grand Lake, high in the Colorado Rockies, presents a puzzle. It is a blue granite stone weighing 66 pounds. But what makes it remarkable is that it is covered with carvings indicating a very early period of human life.
The mammoth animals outlined are contemporaneous with the Cro-Magnon age. Among those pictured are prehistoric dinosaurs and mastodons. The main carving represents an early man with hands that have but three fingers. The flat nose pictured is generally associated with a race preceding the Aztecs according to J.A. Jeancon, curator of the Colorado Historical and Natural History Society.â€ť Article
Oldest Footprints in the World
The Portsmouth Sunday Times – Feb 14, 1931
â€śA number of clearly defined footprints in solid rock have just been discovered in France which are believed to date back from two to three million years and perhaps record the mysterious first man. The face of the rock in which the prints are embodied is criss-crossed with the steps of dinosaurs and similar prehistoric animals and indicates that a terrific struggle once occurred there.
The imprints were, of course made when the rock was soft and then slowly hardened and were preserved for all time. The amazing discovery was made at Bagnoles-de-lâ€™Onrne in Normandy by Dr. Marcel Morin, a well known French scientist.
â€¦..Archeologists have been much impressed by this discovery. As a result of their investigations it is suggested that man first appeared in the earlier periods of the Tertiary Age of Mammals, which ranges loosely between two and sixty million years ago.â€ť
How Science Responds to Its Own Discoveries
Nature is Interesting
Footprints in the Rock
Toledo Blade – Nov 1, 1950
By William Holt, a retired member of the faculty of Bowling Green State University and was recognized as one of the leading geologists in the nation.
â€śOccasionally peculiar shaped depressions in the surface of the bedrock have caused some persons with abnormal imagination, and a lack of geological training, to â€śsee thingsâ€ť in the rock. Human footprints, hand impressions, and even tracks of dinosaurs or other prehistoric animals are recognized (?).
A most interesting case of a foot-print in a slab of surface rock was recently called to my attention. The footprint was in sandstone, and was so real (?) that to some at least there was no doubt that it was actually made by man. The main question seemed to be how many millions of years old it was.
Although I did not see the original, a clear photograph of it was quite sufficient in this case; and I attempted to make the answer clear to the questioners by the following statements:
First, that no human or animal could possibly make a deep imprint in solid, hard rock.
Second, that this particular Ohio bedrock was formed many millions of years before even primitive man existed. Hence no human foot ever could have stepped on the loose sediments of which this rock later was formed.â€ťâ€¦â€¦â€¦William Holt
William is a materialist â€śscientistâ€ť and thus has trained himself not to believe his own lying eyes. In later years he got himself into trouble by reasoning that the IRS didnâ€™t exist and therefore he didnâ€™t have to pay taxes.
August 8, 1955 The Le Mars-Globe
â€śA skeleton found in a gravel pit hereâ€”a fairly complete skeleton, has been declared by Dr. Reynold Ruppe, state University of Iowa archaeologist, to be the remains of an ice-age man, who lived near the south edge of the glaciers which once covered Plymouth
The Monona County ice-age man, who lived at least 10,000 years ago, ..was not like a modern Indian. Heâ€™s something olderâ€”and something new.
Bones of a dinosaur were found in the same depositâ€”about 10 feet deeper.
At first this led to speculation that the dinosaur was the aborigineâ€™s pet, but that didnâ€™t hang together. Dinosaurs disappeared from the earth a million years before the first, man showed up.
So the dinosaur must have left his bones a long, long time before the man died, was drowned or trapped in quicksand at the spot near, Turin where his skeleton was recovered.â€ť
The reader sitting on the edge of his seat when he initially began to read this was quickly calmed by the explanation that this could not be what it might have seemed to beâ€“ he was reminded that there was no evidence that dinosaurs and man ever lived together! Science!
Though this scene in various forms, in various venues and with a variety of potential proofs has no doubt been played out thousands of times in thousands of locales, the Atheist continues to ask â€śwhere is the evidenceâ€ť or â€śwhy hasnâ€™t evidence of this interaction ever been foundâ€ť and many Christians wonder also while nevertheless holding on to their beliefs. The relevant information is being suppressed-sometimes â€śautomaticallyâ€ť because it doesnâ€™t fit the paradigm.