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Did Ancient Americans Ride the Parasaurolophus Dinosaur?-Or Did They Just Exaggerate the Size of Their Sheep?

Crypto, Dinosaurs in Literature, s8int.com, Science, Unexplained Artifact | Posted by Chris Parker
Apr 26 2010

Photo: Ancient Native American Petroglyph Near El Paso, Texas. Click to View larger Version
Annual report of the Bureau of American Ethnology to the secretary…..1886 I came across some of the Oakley glyph but.. it was described elsewhere as being four feet by six feet and I didn’t see the portion with the man, beast and reptile.

However, I did began look around in the book and soon found a drawing of a tattoo that looked like a bi-pedal dinosaur. The writer said that it was a fierce wolf-like creature that roamed the mountains.

Still in pursuit of the Oakley Petroglyph, I came upon Picture-Writing Of The American Indians V1 By Garrick Mallery which had a nice reproduction of a portion of the Oakley glyph. Either this was still not the portion described as featuring beasts, reptiles and a man or there just wasn’t anything very exciting there.

Photo: Comparison to Parasaurolophus. Click to View larger Version
On page 116 of that same book there is a very curious ancient petroglyph from the El Paso Texas area. It showed Native Americans on the backs of two creatures that clearly dwarfed them. Two creatures with distinctive horns as we will show.

Some may say that they represent big horned sheep; some may say buffalo. I say that they are more or less the spitting image in terms of profile and scale of parasaurolophus, a “duck-billed” dinosaur. However, the two Native American gentleman are 1)laying prone on the back of one creature and 2)standing upright on the creatures backs; an impossible feat on a bighorned sheep and a dangerous and impossible one on a buffalo. In point of fact, the drawing may even show a stool by which means our rider was able to climb aboard.

The parasaurolophus however, is thought to have been a docile vegetarian and was certainly large enough to accomodate either a prone or a standing Native American on its back. As you know, our section Dinosaurs In Literature, Art and History has been presented to prove that “dinosaurs” did not live millions of years ago but rather within historical time. We have the art, the history and the literature of ancient peoples to prove that.

Of note on this topic is this quote from the New Mexico Museum of Natural History and Science:

“The duck-billed dinosaurs Parasaurolophus and Kritosaurus and the horned dinosaur Pentaceratops were the most common dinosaurs living in northwestern New Mexico during the Late Cretaceous. An extremely important specimen of Parasaurolophus, discovered in 1995, is on display at the museum”.

El Paso, the location of this petroglyph was from 1680 to 1950 a part of New Mexico-not Texas and the areas are in close proximity to each other.

Photo:Big Horned sheep and parasaurolophus


Parasaurolophus meaning “near crested lizard” in reference to Saurolophus is a genus of ornithopod dinosaur from the Late Cretaceous Period of what is now North America, about 76-73 million years ago. It was a herbivore that walked both as a biped and a quadruped. Three species are recognized: P. walkeri (the type species), P. tubicen, and the short-crested P. cyrtocristatus. Remains are known from Alberta (Canada), and New Mexico and Utah (USA). It was first described in 1922 by William Parks from a skull and partial skeleton in Alberta.

Parasaurolophus is a hadrosaurid, part of a diverse family of Cretaceous dinosaurs known for their range of bizarre head adornments. This genus is known for its large, elaborate cranial crest, which at its largest forms a long curved tube projecting upwards and back from the skull. Charonosaurus from China, which may have been its closest relative, had a similar skull and potentially a similar crest. The crest has been much discussed by scientists; the consensus is that major functions included visual recognition of both species and sex, acoustic resonance, and thermoregulation. It is one of the rarer duckbills, known from only a handful of good specimens.

See Also: A Few (of Many) Other Native American Dinosaurs:

Companion article:”Did Ancient Americans Hunt Sauropod Dinosaurs-or Did They Just Draw Bison with Really Long Necks?

Authenticated Poinsett County Arkansas Corythosaurus/Hypacrosaurus from 400 to 700 Years Ago?

Anasazi Dinosaur Motif On Pottery

Free On Line E-Book:Tracking the Sauropod Dinosaur Through the Art of Ancient Peoples; Part 2-This Time it’s About the Science

Amusing?, Crypto, Dinosaurs in Literature, s8int.com, Science, Sophistication of Ancestors, The Flood of Noah | Posted by Chris Parker
Aug 09 2009

Cave Art Sites in Europe:
“Pergouset is an extreme case, for there one also sees an amoeba-like creature with a vaguely human outline, a hind with an exceptionally long neck, and a rather equine animal head mounted on a giraffe neck. This theme of the animal with immoderately long neck is also found at Labastide, Altxerri and Le Gabillou. It also appears at Le Gabillou in the guise of a quadruped with a body and a head which defies indentification. Neither is it reasonable to try to identify the Lascaux ”unicorn” or the Pech-Merle “antelopes”. The Dawn of European Art By André Leroi-Gourhan

-Giant Dinosaur Posture Is All Wrong: Sauropods Held Their Heads High, Research Finds… Sciencedaily (May 27, 2009)
-How Do We Know What Sauropods Ate?
-Did Sauropods Have A Trunk? Tetrapod Zoology
-Dinosaurs’ Large Noses May Have Been Key To Physiological Processes
-New Study Puts Dinosaur Noses In Their Place
-Dinosaurs May Have Weighed Less Than We Thought
-Discovery Of Dermal Spines Reveals A New Look For Sauropod Dinosaurs. Stephen A. Czerkas, 1992,
-Dinosaur Proteins, Cells And Blood Vessels Recovered From Dinosaur Fossils
-Sauropod Vertebra Picture of the Week?

Palin-tology

I’ve learned from bitter experience that the question; “are you really as stupid as you look?” is best not answered with a simple yes or no. Along with yes or no, some explanatory oratory is probably best. On the other hand, a Christian should be expected to answer the question as to his/her belief that man and dinosaur lived together within the last 10,000 years with a simple and definitive, “yes!”

Even though the majority of Americans (for instance) believe that God was involved in creation and reject evolution to a greater or lesser extent, the idea that man and dinosaur lived together is more and more considered to be a foolish and backward. An idea suitable only to be laughed at.

Governor Palin, was no doubt more than a little naive when she suggested that non-existent over flights by Putin (and his ugly head) over Alaska constituted foreign policy experience but she was correct about the dinosaurs. Nonetheless, many media sources were derisive in reporting that she believed man and dinosaur interacted; as if everyone reading their stories would share their point of view.

Sadly, many Christians would have trouble answering the dinosaur and man question with a simple yes. For many, there would need to be some “hem and hawing” and for some, there would be a quick and maybe even emphatic denial.

The truth is, however there is overwhelming evidence that man and dinosaur did exist together. Ancient cultures left voluminous evidence in the form of art, and literature for example, that they interacted with creatures that we now call dinosaurs. That evidence is largely ignored, suppressed, hidden or misunderstood. However, everyone is aware that ancient cultures shared an experience with creatures they called “dragons” that it is clear, they regarded as real creatures.

These dragons were in virtually every respect; when taken together with pterosaurs, exactly like dinosaurs that science claims became extinct millions of years before man evolved. Why don’t evolutionists have to spend every waking moment trying to convince us that there is no connection between the dragons of antiquity with dinosaurs? Because despite the almost organic resistance society has to evolution, we have nevertheless accepted the notion that the universe is billions of years old.

Materialism and its associated religious doctrines are crumbling under the weight of true science however. It is evolutionists and materialists that should be feeling defensive about their beliefs. Francis Collins, who headed the successful human genome project is now a “believer” who was recently selected by President Obama to head the National Institute of Health said the following about DNA; (paraphrased) “if everyone on earth started reading a portion of the information contained in a single cell of DNA it would take 31 years to read it all”.

That is the amount of information in a single cell and each of us has trillions of such cells in our body. Who put this coded information in the cells of everything living? By the way, Atheists and liberals are opposing Collins because he believes God coded this information into the cells of living things.

As for the universe itself, it has become so clearly created for life that physicists are seriously proposing and Alice in Wonderland notion, known as string theory, that postulates an infinite number of invisible and undetectable universes and hypothesizes further that we just happen to live in the one tailored for life. Why not propose that the universe is carried upon the back of a giant tortoise—or has that already been suggested?

As for the big bang, up to 96% of the universe is described as being made up of “dark” matter and energy. They are like those invisible and undetectable universes of string theory and they must be assumed to exist or else the whole big bang theory would collapse. Those who believe and preach these science doctrines are the ones who are deriding Governor Palin and “fundamentalists” for believing what the Bible teaches.

As we shall see, there is evidence out there in the world beyond Sarah Palin’s back porch to suggest that she does read and that man and dinosaur did co-exist.

Dragons Liar

When paleontologist Mary Schweitzer claimed to have found collagen protein and connective tissue in the thigh bone of a t-rex in 2007 and in a fossilized duck-billed dinosaur in 2009 she received a lot of grief and resistance from the scientific community. This is because; no one could accept that protein could still be obtained from a creature that allegedly died more than 65 million years ago.

Imagine if you will, trying to run for public office only to have the media discover that you harbored such ridiculous beliefs. That would be really stup….Wait; one second….I’m being told that there are plenty of people out there willing to believe it. Let’s move on.

The sauropod dinosaur is iconic. It was the largest land creature ever and has a very long neck, a long tail and a somewhat bulky quadruped body in the middle. Because it is iconic, it can be represented in detail or with a few simple lines. It is easy to recognize.

If man and dinosaur co-existed, it should be somewhere represented in the arts of man. They would have been too big to ignore. As a matter of fact, a total absence of its description or depiction would be a serious problem for creationists. As it turns out however, that problem doesn’t exist.

Just as the internet disposed of the notion that Egyptians looked like Charleston Heston or Edward G. Robinson (N.Y. accent: where’s your God nahowwww, Moses, huhhhhh?), it will give people a chance to see and to investigate for themselves some of the evidence of man and dinosaur co-existence scattered about in museums and art galleries around the world.

The idea that such evidence doesn’t exist because man and dinosaur never saw each other is frankly, a lie. All evidence to the contrary is suppressed, labeled as hoaxes, as fakes or simply ignored. The question is, how and why did ancient man conceive of mythological creatures almost exactly like dinosaurs…large, reptilian quadrupeds. When it comes to sauropods specifically, how to explain long necked, long tailed quadrupeds of the iconic sauropod shape among cultures that supposedly missed the creatures by 45 million years or so?

What if there are features of ancient, iconic sauropod depictions which have only recently been discovered by modern science? How will science explain that? I’m guessing something invisible and undetectable ;0).

The Remainder of this Article is Here in the Free E-Book; Tracking the Sauropod Dinosaur Through the Art of Ancient Peoples, Part 2–This Time its About the Science

Tracking the Sauropod Dinosaur Through the Art of Ancient Peoples, Part 1

Tracking the Ancient Griffin, Modern Monsters and the “Extinct” Pterosaur Through Art, History and Science

Roman Era Lamp Found In England; Bird or Diplodocus?

Dinosaurs in Literature, Sophistication of Ancestors, Uncategorized, Unexplained Artifact | Posted by Chris Parker
Dec 02 2008

Animation:Views of diplodocus and Roman era lamp.

From; Victoria County History of Kent Vol. 3 1932 – Romano-British Kent – Country Houses -. This bronze, Roman era lamp is from the time period of first century through the fifth century A.D.

There are no doubt some who would assume that this is a depiction of some long necked, featherless bird but an alternate interpretation is that of one of the long necked sauropods. Based on the skull shape, we have compared it to diplodocus. Everyone else can decide for themselves, but if you can can certainly rule out; swans, emus and ostriches, IOHO.

Clearly for us, the idea that the Romans could have depicted a living sauropod on one of their lamps as not so far fetched.

One of the early clues that we here at s8int.com had that our search for ancient depictions of dinosaurs would be successful was the discovery of the Roman Mosaic at Palestrina, which depicts several dinosaurs and other animals which were supposed to be extinct millions of years ago.

Ancient Roman oil lamps were small devices, typically made of terra cotta, that were used by the ancient Romans for artificial light. They were fueled by olive oil, and had anywhere from one to a dozen wicks. Many had handles so they could be carried from room to room, and also so they could by carried by actors in plays or by participants in various ritual activities.

Ancient Roman Oil Lamps

“Ancient Roman oil lamps often contained molded reliefs of erotic scenes, gladiators, mythical characters, or floral patterns. These lamps were fairly popular, since they could be released as collectible sets (e.g. a set of lamps with a different god on each lamp), and because they were relatively inexpensive.

Such lamps were mass-produced in great numbers, using molds instead of hand-crafting techniques. As a result they were easy, quick and cheap to manufacture. Many thousands of complete examples survive in museums across the world.” Wikipedia

In our experience many of these lamps were zoomorphic and were formed in the shape of real animals like horses, camels, dogs and birds but also in forms that we would find exotic such as griffins, and dinosaurs?

Artifact Source: KENT ARCHAEOLOGICAL SOCIETY