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True Suppressions: Remembering the “Granby Idol” Unfakeable Relic Showing Dinosaur Human Mastodon Interaction in Pre-Glacial Granite

Crypto, Dinosaurs in Literature, Religious,, Science, Sophistication of Ancestors, Unexplained Artifact | Posted by Chris Parker
Apr 18 2010

by Chris Parker, Copyright 2010

If dinosaurs and humans lived on earth at the same time as Christians say they did, where is all the evidence? Recent polls show that the majority of Americans reject the theory of evolution and believe in the literal account of creation in the Bible. With respect to dinosaurs and humans interacting, that same public is not so sure.

One of the things we’ve come to understand about that topic while researching over the years is; 1)there actually is plenty of evidence that man and dinosaurs interacted and 2)this information has been and continues to be suppressed.

As an example of “how science works” to marginalize or discredit information that doesn’t fit the evolutionary paradigm we offer this short incident which is wholly unrelated to the subject if this post;

August 8, 1955 The Le Mars-Globe

“A skeleton found in a gravel pit here—a fairly complete skeleton, has been declared by Dr. Reynold Ruppe, state University of Iowa archaeologist, to be the remains of an ice-age man, who lived near the south edge of the glaciers which once covered Plymouth

Photo right :Granby Idol. Click to enhance size.

The Monona County ice-age man, who lived at least 10,000 years ago, ..was not like a modern Indian. He’s something older—and something new.

Bones of a dinosaur were found in the same deposit—about 10 feet deeper.

At first this led to speculation that the dinosaur was the aborigine’s pet, but that didn’t hang together. Dinosaurs disappeared from the earth a million years before the first, man showed up.

So the dinosaur must have left his bones a long, long time before the man died, was drowned or trapped in quicksand at the spot near, Turin where his skeleton was recovered.”

The reader sitting on the edge of his seat when he initially began to read this was quickly calmed by the explanation that this could not be what it might have seemed to be– he was reminded that there was no evidence that dinosaurs and man ever lived together! Science!

Though this scene in various forms, in various venues and with a variety of potential proofs has no doubt been played out thousands of times in thousands of locales, the Atheist continues to ask “where is the evidence” or “why hasn’t evidence of this interaction ever been found” and many Christians wonder also while nevertheless holding on to their beliefs. The relevant information is being suppressed-sometimes “automatically” because it doesn’t fit the paradigm.

The “Granby Idol” The Suppressed Human Dinosaur Interaction Artifact

Photo right :Granby Idol showing dinosaurs and mastodon. Source:The Le Grand Reporter 1923. Click to enhance size.

“If this stone can be proven genuine, it is the biggest find in all anthropological research and antedates anything on the American continent and is going to establish the remote antiquity of man.

I have never seen such remarkable outlines of dinosaurs and mastodons!”…..Jean Allard Jeancon, archaeologist and Curator of the Colorado Historical and Natural History Society and one time special archaeologist for the Bureau of Ethnology at the Smithsonian.

Have you ever heard of this potentially “biggest find in all anthropological research”? Of course not! Dinnosaur human interaction is impossible according to the paradigm as is dinosaur mastodon interaction. Jeancon, a prominent archaeologist of the period was the author of many books both before and after this discovery but as far as we can tell he never mentioned it again.

This despite the fact that many universities were simultaneously studying rubbings of the object in 1923; despite the fact that it clearly represented man, dinosaur and mastodon together and despite the fact that it was virtually “un-fakeable”.

Is Pre-Glacial Man Coming Back?
Mammoth Animals are Outlined in Some of the Colorado Explorations
Hutchison News, January 5 1923

“Denver , Colo., Jan. 6 — Make way for the pre-glacial man or memories of him! That’s what scientists are doing in temporarily discarding the chronologies of Indians, Moundbuilders and even the Aztecs of Old Mexico, in their efforts to establish, if possible the pre-glacial usage of a rock image unearthed by W.L. Chalmers near Grand Lake high in the Colorado rockies .

……..“He found the 66 pound stone six feet below the surface while enlarging an irrigation reservoir on his homestead.

Photo right :Granby Idol showing dinosaurs and mastodon outlined in color. The “carnivorous” dinosaur has the “mean” expression. The three-fingered gentleman is outlined in green. Click to enhance size.

Mammoth animals outlined in the stone of blue granite rock are contemporaneous with the Cro_magnon period.

The flat nose is generally associated with a race preceding the Aztec’s according to J. Allard Jeancon curator of the Colorado Historical and Natural History Society.

The image/sculpture basically shows a three-fingered man holding a tablet covered with a strange, unknown script. According to W.L. Chalmers the discover, scientists in New York, Washington and Santa Fe were at work trying to decipher the script. Other museums and university’s who had no doubt been in touch with Jeancon were seeking to obtain a rubbing from the granite piece.

Difficult to Carve Image Today

“The image through changes in the consistency of the rock, has become harder than steel. Geologists who have seen the stone say it would be impossible to make these impressions today by rubbing with flint implements. It is fourteen inches high, nine inches across the tablet and about 12 inches through to the back.

According to T.M. van Tuhl, who had not seen the rock image, alternate light and dark bands in the Denver Park area had convinced him that the mountains could date back to the “Archean” period, near the creation of the world. Other geologists who had seen it said that it (the artifact) could be thousands or even millions of years old.

What is It? Who Made it? What Does it Say?
The Pinedale Roundup, April 26, 1923

“WHAT is it? Who made it? What does it say?

Photo:Comparison graphic for the mastodon/sauropod impaired :0)

“It” is a curved chunk of granite just dug up on the western edge of Rocky Mountain National Park in Colorado—a sort of rock image. I haven’t the slightest idea myself. That’s not surprising- But neither does anyone else, apparently. And that is surprising, considering the expert knowledge of the men who frankly admit that they don’t know, and can’t even guess.

In effect the stone is the image of a sitting man who holds in front of him with hands that have but three fingers a tablet inscribed with unknown characters. One picture shows the representation, above the arm and leg of the man holding the tablet, of a huge, land reptile.

Some of the experts say it is a sauropod, a vegetable-eating dinosaur. Another picture shows a different kind of dinosaur. This, the experts say, is a carnivorous dinosaur. Beneath it is a carving of a mastodon, as anyone can see.

As to the symbols -or hieroglyphics carved on the tablet, they are undecipherable to date. The experts say they are not anything known to archaeologists.

…The prehistoric man who carved this chunk of granite may have drawn the mastodon, from life. But where did he get models for his two very lifelike dinosaurs?”

…Altogether, it must be conceded that the sculptor, whoever he was and whenever he did his work, is an artist. His dinosaurs and mastodon are life like. His three-fingered man stirs the Imagination. His hieroglyphics are apparently unique. But we end where we began. What is it? Who made it? What does it say?”


“These three views of what is probably a Stone Idol, were sent to me by Mr. F. V. Hammar of Saint Louis.

In his letter of June 23rd, 1926, Mr. Hammar says:—”This queer relic was found by a man named Jordan (sic )near Granby, Colorado. Mr. Jordan was excavating for a garage or a cellar and uncovered this stone at a depth of 12 feet.

He found many utensils, etc., in the same place, thus giving the presumption of a settlement. The stone is exceedingly hard green material, and like nothing ever known of in the neighborhood. It may have been brought from a distance.”

This sculptured stone is of unusual interest to me because it shows, carved in high relief, the figures of two dinosaurs and an elephant. The inscriptions are also of great interest, and some of them are similar to those I saw in the Supai Canyon.

It is significant that the dinosaur and elephant are close together in the Supai drawings, and here they are sculptured together on the back of the same figure.

The dinosaurs suggest either the “brontosaurus” or the “diplodocus,” while the elephant has a long curved tusk.”…Samuel Hubbard Jr. Curator of the Oakland Museum and Discoverer of dinosaur petro glyphs in the Grand Canyon of Colorado, along with giant petrified human beings. < ---Click Here to Read That Article

Mysteries and Legends of Colorado: True Stories of the Unsolved and Unexplained
By Jan Murphy

“Was the Granby idol proof of these voyages? (Dr. Cyclone Covey is Professor Emeritus at Wake Forest University and a prolific writer in the area of ‘alternative” history. He has a theory that the Americas were visited in ancient pre-Columbian times by the Chinese who left a few artifacts featuring ancient Chinese writing.)

Dr. Covey believed that the skill of ancient Chinese mariners made these voyages probable, but no artifacts had been found to prove it.

….His final conclusions were that the stone was some type of a marker for travelers and the stone was made of fine-grained dolomite, a heavy stone common to northern China. Words on the stone that he was able to translate were “north” “river”, “fruit” and “fish”.

….Unfortunately the “Granby idol” itself was never again found…”


The artifacts that would prove that man and dinosaurs coexisted have been found. They are stored in basements or storerooms, lost, ignored, declared to be hoaxes, destroyed and reburied. The “Granby Idol” is another in a long list of such proofs that were placed in the hands of “science” and then “disappeared”.

Scientists who examined it at the time believed it to be genuine. When J.Allard Jeancon came out and suggested that it was likely a true artifact and that it depicted man dinosaur and mastodon together—he proved at least for a very short time to be a brave man. So God created the Great Dragons” …Genesis 1:21 The Latin Vulgate

See Also:True Suppressions Series
Dinosaurs in Literature, History and Art

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The Greatest Hoax on Earth? New book challenges Richard Dawkins on Evolution

Church of Darwin, Science, The Flood of Noah, Unexplained Artifact | Posted by Chris Parker
Mar 25 2010

March 25, 2010 — “The Greatest Hoax on Earth? Refuting Dawkins on Evolution. Dr. Jonathan Sarfati’s new book, challenges Dr. Richard Dawkins’ latest blockbuster—The Greatest Show on Earth: the evidence for evolution.

Dr Jonathan Sarfati, scientist, chessmaster, logician and Christian apologist knows the creation vs. evolution controversy well. Before publishing The Greatest Hoax on Earth?, Sarfati authored the best-selling book, Refuting Evolution, which now has over 500,000 copies in print.

The Greatest Hoax on Earth? provides a penetrating examination of Dawkins’ anti-creationist magnum opus. Drawing on his extensive knowledge of biology, geology, fossils, radiometric dating, and more, Sarfati thoroughly exposes the bankruptcy of Dawkins’ arguments.

Sarfati maintains that arguments for evolution and against creation sound convincing only when they are unexamined. Accordingly, Sarfati scrutinizes Dawkins’ methods, highlighting tactics which he deems are unreasonable and illogical – such as frequently resorting to straw-man arguments.

“In my opinion Sarfati’s book beats Dawkins’ book, point by point, on all issues.” – Dr. John Sanford, Cornell professor and inventor of the gene gun.

Dawkins is well-known for his strident atheism, for which he needs evolution. Sarfati is known for declaring that the biblical account of origins has abundant evidential support and withstands the test of time.

Unlike some writers, he is able to make the science mostly accessible to the lay reader, making it an informative and educational read that is nonetheless an intellectual feast for the scientifically trained. The Greatest Hoax on Earth? pulls together the most up-to-date arguments against evolution, in defense of the biblical account of origins.

More details can be found at The Greatest Hoax on Earth?

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Fossil Ida- Evolutionists Dare Not Speak Its Name?

Amusing?, Church of Darwin,, Science | Posted by Chris Parker
Mar 03 2010

Photo: by Mary Altaffer/AP. Paleontologist Jørn Hurum demonstrates the “Ida dance”; take 1/2 step forward, two steps back and: “Fossil Hands, Fossil Hands”!

We’re beginning to feel just a bit sorry for “Ida” the much bally-hooed fossil that less than a year ago was going to “change everything”. Sure Ida wasn’t actually a human ancestor as a book, a TV special and a Museum of Natural History exhibit claimed (along with a passel of excited evolutionists)–but in all fairness-there are no ancestors to humans. Even those millionaires over at Google were taken in, choosing to worship the creature rather than the Creator. Ida, however wasn’t two OO’s either.

How much dirt can you kick on someone’s grave/burial location? We’ve already dealt with the Ida fallout and how evolutionists were interrupted in the middle of their joyful “take that creationists” dance in our Top 12 Science Stories for Creationists in 2009 posting, but what we did find interesting here is that in ScienceDaily’s continued burying of the fossil, they could not bring themselves to use that famous Ida name in the entire piece; preferring the more scientific name, “Darwinius” only…

‘Missing Link’ Fossil Was Not Human Ancestor as Claimed, Anthropologists Say
ScienceDaily (Mar. 3, 2010)

“In an article now available online in the Journal of Human Evolution, four scientists present evidence that the 47-million-year-old Darwinius masillae is not a haplorhine primate like humans, apes and monkeys, as the 2009 research claimed.

…Last spring’s much-publicized article on Darwinius was released in conjunction with a book, a History Channel documentary, and an exhibit in the American Museum of Natural History. At a news conference attended by New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg, the authors unveiled the nearly complete fossil of a nine-month-old female primate that had been found at the site of Messel in Germany.

..They also note that the article on Darwinius published last year in the journal PLoS ONE ignores two decades of published research showing that similar fossils are actually strepsirrhines, the primate group that includes lemurs and lorises.”

“Many lines of evidence indicate that Darwinius has nothing at all to do with human evolution,” says Chris Kirk, associate professor of anthropology at The University of Texas at Austin

ScienceDaily’s Full Article Here