Archive for October, 2009

Worlds Largest Pyramid Discovered? – Lost Mayan City Of Mirador

s8int.com, Science, Sophistication of Ancestors, Unexplained Artifact | Posted by Chris Parker
Oct 26 2009

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CNN Report, Oct. 25, 2009: The world’s largest pyramid; by volume?

Also: The Mayan “creation story” was thought to have been influenced by Spanish Catholics but the Mayan’s own “story” discovered here proves that there version existed at least 1,000 years earlier.

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IDA DOA: The Explosive Pace of Evolution-ary Debunking

Church of Darwin, Fin De Siecle, Science | Posted by Chris Parker
Oct 22 2009

Thanks to: Geoff G. & Chris W.

Photo:P.T. Barnum, is there indeed one born every minute?

Ernst Haeckel’s Biogenic Law; often stated as “ontogeny recapitulates phylogeny” (an embryo goes through all the stages of its “evolutionary ancestors”) had been formulated with the help of faked drawings and outright lies had been debunked by his own scientific peers. Jonathan Wells notes in his book “Icons of Evolution” that even though the theory had been discredited over 100 years ago, Haeckel’s drawings were still being used in the latest edition of Molecular Biology of the Cell, written by National Academy of Sciences president and distinguished cell biologist Bruce Alberts and his colleagues.

It tends to support evolution dogma you see.

The “Link”

Fossil “Ida” was introduced with as much fanfare, braggadocio, Darwinian smarm and chutzpa as can be imagined. Ida it was claimed was the “eighth wonder of the world” and could cure cancer or bad breath just by being gazed upon. There were tie-ins to movies, television programs, videos, books and Ida plush toys. Darwinists apparently thought that the little rodent proved that there was no God!

Early on, much of the criticism of the Ida publicity machine came from other evolutionists–some who admittedly were promoting their own favorite little furry animals–but many were concerned about the overheated claims. Now, a new analysis of the fossil will make most of the Ida claims go extinct. (This changes everything!) The value of Ida memorabilia is already plummeting…..s8int.com

‘Eighth wonder’ Ida is not related to humans, claim scientists
US palaeontologists dismiss initial claims about the 47million-year-old fossil found in Germany’s Messel Pit

Ian Sample, science correspondent guardian.co.uk, Wednesday 21 October 2009

Her arrival was announced with unrestrained razzmatazz. She was the “eighth wonder of the world”, “our Mona Lisa” and an evolutionary “Rosetta Stone”, according to the researchers who unveiled her.

The female in question was Ida, a 47million-year-old primate, whose exquisitely preserved fossil was touted as the remains of our earliest human ancestor. She was, they said, the “link” between us and the rest of the animal kingdom.

Or maybe not. Writing in the journal, Nature, a team of palaeontologists from New York claim that Ida is not related to humans at all. Instead, they conclude, the $1m fossil looks more like a small lemur or maybe a loris.

The challenge is being seen as the opening salvo in what is shaping up to be a hearty academic slugging match. At stake is not only the significance of one of the most extraordinary fossils unearthed, but the reputations of some of the world’s leading researchers. So far, relations between the two sides are strained but courteous.

“Our analysis and results have convinced us that Ida was not an ancestor of monkeys, apes, or humans, and if anything has more relevance for our understanding of lemur and loris origins,” said Erik Seiffert, a fossil hunter at Stony Brook University in New York who led the Nature study.

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A.P. Primate fossil called only a distant relative

By MALCOLM RITTER, AP Science Writer Malcolm Ritter, Ap Science Writer – Wed Oct 21, 5:09 pm ET
NEW YORK – Remember Ida, the fossil discovery announced last May with its own book and TV documentary? A publicity blitz called it “the link” that would reveal the earliest evolutionary roots of monkeys, apes and humans. Experts protested that Ida wasn’t even a close relative. And now a new analysis supports their reaction.

In fact, Ida is as far removed from the monkey-ape-human ancestry as a primate could be, says Erik Seiffert of Stony Brook University in New York.

He and his colleagues compared 360 specific anatomical features of 117 living and extinct primate species to draw up a family tree. They report the results in Thursday’s issue of the journal Nature.

Ida is a skeleton of a 47 million-year-old cat-sized creature found in Germany. It starred in a book, “The Link: Uncovering Our Earliest Ancestor.”

Ida represents a previously unknown primate species called Darwinius. The scientists who formally announced the finding said they weren’t claiming Darwinius was a direct ancestor of monkeys, apes and humans. But they did argue that it belongs in the same major evolutionary grouping, and that it showed what an actual ancestor of that era might have looked like.

The new analysis says Darwinius does not belong in the same primate category as monkeys, apes and humans. Instead, the analysis concluded, it falls into the other major grouping, which includes lemurs.

Experts agreed.

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If There was a Global Flood, Where did All the Water Come From? Relax, You’re Soaking in it!

Church of Darwin, s8int.com, Science, The Flood of Noah, Unexplained Artifact | Posted by Chris Parker
Oct 19 2009

Photo:Relax, you’re soaking in it!* (see footnote)

Not too long ago in one of those stump the Christian moments, someone asked me how Noah found penquins in Palestine. I pointed out that penquins aren’t strictly Arctic as you might suppose; for example, I told him, today there are penquins living on the beaches of South Africa.

Last month I had a similar discussion with Cliff Paiva, Frank Sherwin of ICR and Major Joseph F.R., currently in Iraq (stay safe!) concerning the possible water canopy above the earth pre-flood and possible sources for all that water re the Genesis flood (another stump the Christian favorite). The Major and I were kicking around some ideas related to a pre-flood canopy as a potential source of the quantity of water needed to cover the earth to a depth of more than 20 feet over the highest mountains.

Cliff Paiva as usual succinctly put the entire issue in perspective;

Since 330 million cubic miles of ocean covers nearly 75% of this planet…I often wonder why folks keep asking “…where has all the water gone…long time passing…where has all the water gone….a long, long time ago….?”.

Seriously, its time folks use common sense when talking about a planet which is today nearly 75% under water, and whose crust is completely fractured, with millions of hydrothermal vents pouring out yet even more water!

Photo:Right, Penquins on the beach at Capetown, South Africa

One of the reasons that this conversation came to mind is that last week NASA crashed a rocket into the moon in search of water. One of the reasons secular science is so desperate to find water on the moon, on mars or wherever it can in the universe is because as far as we know, liquid water does not exist anywhere else but here on earth.

The abundance of water here is neccessary for life and its presence is another brick in the Anthropic Priniciple wall–the scientific evidence that this planet, this solar system and this universe were specifically created for life. Secular, materialist science would like to prove that water here on this planet is not such a great anomaly.

Scientists readily admit that they don’t know where the water came from and there are several competing naturalistic explanations. (Christians know that the source of water on earth is God as explained beginning in the second verse of Genesis 1.) What is the number one accepted theory as to the origin of all the water here on earth?

Well, what is the dumbest idea that you can think of? Nope, its dumber than that!

The current leading theory is that the water on earth came primarily from the collision of “water rich” asteroids from the outer asteroid belt with the earth. Naturalistic explanations for the origin of water on this planet-are all wet.

“An evolutionist friend of mine once told me that the best evidence for the [creation model] he knew was that any land existed at all on the earth. If our planet had spun down from a gas cloud, he said, the outer layers would consist of basaltic ocean crust, covered by a concentric layer of granite, the whole thing covered by over two miles (3 km) of water! He said it looked as if “someone with big hands” (the closest he could come to saying “God”) took the granite and shoved it up into a pile to form the dry land. Then he added that the “guy with big hands” was also smart enough to thin the basalt under the granite piles to maintain the earth in gravitational balance (isostasy) so it wouldn’t fracture as it rotated.” Creation: Facts of Life (2006) Master Books, p. 224

Frank Sherwin of ICR Frank Sherwin is a staff scientist, speaker, and prolific author for the Institute for Creation Research in San Diego. He is also the author of The Ocean Book, for which he received the San Diego Christian Writers Guild Award for Excellence in Educational Writing. His youtube video Oceans, Creation and the Genesis Flood can be found here.


* This phrase was popularized by a television commercial campaign for Palmolive dish washing detergent. Madge, a manicurist, would comment on the dry, rough appearance of her client’s skin as she worked on one hand while the other soaked in a bowl of light green liquid. The client would ask her advice; Madge would recommend Palmolive; the client would act surprised (after all, how could a dish washing detergent affect one’s skin? Preposterous.). Then Madge would inform the client about the liquid in the bowl: “Relax, “you’re soaking in it,” she’d say, in a very matter-of-fact tone. The shocked client would immediately remove her hand from the bowl, and Madge would guide it back down, assuring her that everything was fine: “Palmolive softens hands as you do dishes.”

The ad campaign was created by the Ted Bates Ad Agency in 1966 and ran into the early ’90s.

Modern usage of the phrase occurs in situations similar to the well-intentioned ruse pulled off by Madge: someone is not aware of a situation or state, comments about it, and is told, “You’re soaking in it.” Example: a newbie might show up in the Chatterbox and ask, “hey, where’s this chatterbox thing I’ve heard about?” Answer: “you’re soaking in it.”…Everything2.com

Modern Man a Wimp Says Anthropologist

Giants in Those Days, s8int.com, Science, Sophistication of Ancestors, Uncategorized, Unexplained Artifact | Posted by Chris Parker
Oct 19 2009

In this interesting article, anthropologist McAllister attributes the greater physical abilities of our ancestors to the softness of modern society versus the tough existence of prior societies.

Respected Cornell Geneticist, John Sanford, who rejected Darwinism in his recent book: “Genetic Entropy & the Mystery of the Genome”, attributes this physical decline to the actual decline in “fitness” of the human genome.

Far from the Darwinian mantra of increasing “fitness” of successive generations due to the “capture” of beneficial mutations, Sanford’s research leads him to conclude that the human genome is gradually losing the fight against a growing volume of negative genetic mutations and that in fact the human race’s genome is actually declining in fitness approximately 2% every generation.

If you’re not so good at math you might think that this means the genome would decline to zero in 50 years. This is not what he’s saying. He’s saying that each human generation is 2% less fit than the prior generation. That kind of decline could be sustained for a long time but the prognosis would not be good.

Just as the universe began winding down when death came into the picture because of Adam’s sin, so entropy also appears to have become a reality for biological systems as well.

An article on Sanford’s book can be found by clicking here. ……..s8int.com

Modern Man a Wimp Says Anthropologist
By John Mehaffey

LONDON (Reuters) – Many prehistoric Australian aboriginals could have outrun world 100 and 200 meters record holder Usain Bolt in modern conditions.

Some Tutsi men in Rwanda exceeded the current world high jump record of 2.45 meters during initiation ceremonies in which they had to jump at least their own height to progress to manhood.
height to progress to manhood.

Any Neanderthal woman could have beaten former bodybuilder and current California governor Arnold Schwarzenegger in an arm wrestle.

These and other eye-catching claims are detailed in a book by Australian anthropologist Peter McAllister entitled “Manthropology” and provocatively sub-titled “The Science of the Inadequate Modern Male.”

McAllister sets out his stall in the opening sentence of the prologue.

“If you’re reading this then you — or the male you have bought it for — are the worst man in history.

“No ifs, no buts — the worst man, period…As a class we are in fact the sorriest cohort of masculine Homo sapiens to ever walk the planet.”

Delving into a wide range of source material McAllister finds evidence he believes proves that modern man is inferior to his predecessors in, among other fields, the basic Olympic athletics disciplines of running and jumping.

His conclusions about the speed of Australian aboriginals 20,000 years ago are based on a set of footprints, preserved in a fossilized claypan lake bed, of six men chasing prey.

FLEET-FOOTED ABORIGINALS

An analysis of the footsteps of one of the men, dubbed T8, shows he reached speeds of 37 kph on a soft, muddy lake edge. Bolt, by comparison, reached a top speed of 42 kph during his then world 100 meters record of 9.69 seconds at last year’s Beijing Olympics.

In an interview in the English university town of Cambridge where he was temporarily resident, McAllister said that, with modern training, spiked shoes and rubberized tracks, aboriginal hunters might have reached speeds of 45 kph.

“We can assume they are running close to their maximum if they are chasing an animal,” he said.

“But if they can do that speed of 37 kph on very soft ground I suspect there is a strong chance they would have outdone Usain Bolt if they had all the advantages that he does.

“We can tell that T8 is accelerating toward the end of his tracks.”

Continued here…

The s8int.com Descriptive Site Map

s8int.com | Posted by Chris Parker
Oct 14 2009

The s8int.com website is difficult to navigate. We never anticipated that it would get so large.

The sitemap that was previously available did not provide an adequate description of what was actually on each page so looking for information is sometimes like looking for old coins on the beach with an old metal detector. Eureka!

Should be somewhat more helpful. 98% of the website pages are described with a link to the respective page.

Click the Link Above or Photo above, or Click the Search button on the website to go to the search/sitemap.

Archaeopteryx Was Not Very Bird-like: Inside The First Bird, Surprising Signs Of A Dinosaur

Amusing?, Church of Darwin, s8int.com, Science, Unexplained Artifact | Posted by Chris Parker
Oct 11 2009

An important part of the evolutionary mythology is that dinosaurs evolved into birds. There seems to be nothing that will convince these believers that the theory is “bird-brained” and that there is no supporting evidence for it.

Storrs Olson, Curator of Birds at the Smithsonian noted that a cadre of “zealots” were trying to “actively promulgate the theropod dinosaur origin of birds theory in concert with Nature and National Geo”. They were in fact working to convince the public that it was all “settled science’.

Olson called them “highly biased proselytizers of the faith”, which really had to sting. Shortly thereafter, their golden transitional feathered dinosaur fossil, Archaeoraptor, turned out to be made up of Elmer’s Glue, multiple fossils and imagination.

Not to long ago, researchers at Oregon State University made a “fundamental new discovery” about how birds breathe and about the lung capacity needed for flight– concluding that it was unlikely that birds descended from any known theropod dinosaurs.

They also noted the politics involved in kicking dirt on such a sacred cow as dinobirds. Others have provided evidence that the supposed feathers were actually other structures, such as a fringe running down the dinosaur’s back.

After the Archaeoraptor tragedy, science has pinned its dino-bird hopes on Archaeopteryx, which is supposed to be a transitional fossil between dinosaurs and birds. In the following article, it appears that this fossil is also not what they believed it to be…..s8int.com

Archaeopteryx Was Not Very Bird-like……

ScienceDaily (Oct. 9, 2009) — The raptor-like Archaeopteryx has long been viewed as the archetypal first bird, but new research reveals that it was actually a lot less “bird-like” than scientists had believed.

In fact, the landmark study led by paleobiologist Gregory M. Erickson of The Florida State University has upended the iconic first-known-bird image of Archaeopteryx (from the Greek for “ancient wing”), which lived 150 million years ago during the Late Jurassic period in what is now Germany. Instead, the animal has been recast as more of a feathered dinosaur — bird on the outside, dinosaur on the inside.

That’s because new, microscopic images of the ancient cells and blood vessels inside the bones of the winged, feathered, claw-handed creature show unexpectedly slow growth and maturation that took years, similar to that found in dinosaurs, from which birds evolved. In contrast, living birds grow rapidly and mature in a matter of weeks.

Also groundbreaking is the finding that the rapid bone growth common to all living birds but surprisingly absent from the Archaeopteryx was not necessary for avian dinosaur flight.

The study is published in the Oct. 9, 2009, issue of the journal PLoS ONE. In addition to Erickson, an associate professor in Florida State’s Department of Biological Science and a research associate at the American Museum of Natural History, co-authors include Florida State University biologist Brian D. Inouye and other U.S. scientists, as well as researchers from Germany and China.

“Living birds mature very quickly,” Erickson said. “That’s why we rarely see baby birds among flocks of invariably identical-size pigeons. Slow-growing animals such as Archaeopteryx would look foreign to contemporary bird-watchers.”

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A Third of Dinosaur Species Never Existed?

Church of Darwin, Science, Uncategorized | Posted by Chris Parker
Oct 11 2009

Brian Handwerk
for National Geographic News

October 9, 2009

That’s because young dinosaurs didn’t look like Mini-Me versions of their parents, according to new analyses by paleontologists Mark Goodwin, University of California, Berkeley, and Jack Horner, of Montana State University.

Instead, like birds and some other living animals, the juveniles went through dramatic physical changes during adulthood.

This means many fossils of young dinosaurs, including T. rex relatives, have been misidentified as unique species, the researchers argue.

How T. Rex Became a Terror

The lean and graceful Nanotyrannus is one strong example. Thought to be a smaller relative of T. rex, the supposed species is now considered by many experts to be based on a misidentified fossil of a juvenile T. rex.

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Oregon School Bans Motto for Religious Reference; Then, How ‘Bout-”When Soaring with Eagles, Don’t Let the Turkeys Bring You Down?

Church of Darwin, Religious, Uncategorized | Posted by Chris Parker
Oct 01 2009


The Associated Press January 12, 2008

BLUE RIVER — Despite the connection to the school mascot, a rural school district has banned a proposed motto for a graduating high school class because it contains a religious reference.

Some of the 90 seniors at McKenzie High School had been inspired by a Bible verse quoted at the August funeral of a classmate killed in an all-terrain vehicle accident.

The entire verse was: “They that wait upon the Lord shall renew their strength, they shall mount up with wings like eagles.”

It was read at the memorial service for Ryan Snapp, who died Aug. 10 after hitting a tree in the alcohol-related crash.

The students deleted any references to God in the proposed motto based on the verse and the school mascot name, the Eagles.

But McKenzie School District officials rejected the motto as too religious: “They that believe shall mount up with wings as eagles.”

Brianna Rux, 17, one of the seniors, disagreed with the decision and wrote a guest opinion in The Register-Guard protesting it.

She said the verse seemed particularly fitting, given the mascot name and that class members have pulled together to rise above their grief.

“Ourselves being Eagles, it seemed a good way to describe who we are that no matter what we believe in, we can overcome,” she told the Eugene newspaper on Friday.

McKenzie school Superintendent Sally Storm said the owner of the company that was going to publish the high school graduation announcements recognized the motto as part of a Bible verse and called the school district office.

Storm said she called Bruce Zagar, the school district’s attorney, to get a legal opinion on the matter.

“I started to run it past him and he immediately said, ‘That’s Isaiah 40:31,’ ” she said.

At that point, Storm said, she had no choice.

“My duty is to follow the law in this case — the U.S. Constitution — which doesn’t allow public schools to either interfere with the practice of religion or establish a religious practice,” she said.

Zagar told the newspaper that simply omitting the reference to God from the verse doesn’t alter its origin — the Old Testament.

In a formal opinion, he advised the district that both the U.S. and Oregon constitutions prevent any public entity from taking any action which establishes, sponsors, supports or otherwise condones a particular religion or religious belief.

McKenzie High School student body president Casey King said Friday that most members of the senior class have accepted the decision.

King said the class has adopted a replacement motto: Nothing we do changes the past; everything we do changes the future.

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