Archive for September, 2009

“Prehistoric Man” Used Crude “Sat Nav”

s8int.com, Science, Sophistication of Ancestors, The Flood of Noah, Unexplained Artifact | Posted by Chris Parker
Sep 28 2009

Photo:Silbury Hill, Wiltshire which may have been part of an ancient navigational aid for prehistoric man Photo: SWNS

Prehistoric man navigated his way across England using a crude version of sat nav based on stone circle markers, historians have claimed.

They were able to travel between settlements with pinpoint accuracy thanks to a complex network of hilltop monuments.

These covered much of southern England and Wales and included now famous landmarks such as Stonehenge and The Mount.

New research suggests that they were built on a connecting grid of isosceles triangles that ‘point’ to the next site. Many are 100 miles or more away, but GPS co-ordinates show all are accurate to within 100 metres. This provided a simple way for ancient Britons to navigate successfully from A to B without the need for maps.

According to historian and writer Tom Brooks, the findings show that Britain’s Stone Age ancestors were ”sophisticated engineers” and far from a barbaric race.

Mr Brooks, from Honiton, Devon, studied all known prehistoric sites as part of his research.

He said: ”To create these triangles with such accuracy would have required a complex understanding of geometry.

”The sides of some of the triangles are over 100 miles across on each side and yet the distances are accurate to within 100 metres. You cannot do that by chance.

”So advanced, sophisticated and accurate is the geometrical surveying now discovered, that we must review fundamentally the perception of our Stone Age forebears as primitive, or conclude that they received some form of external guidance.

”Is sat-nav as recent as we believe; did they discover it first?”

Mr Brooks analysed 1,500 sites stretching from Norfolk to north Wales. These included standing stones, hilltop forts, stone circles and hill camps.

Each was built within eyeshot of the next.

Using GPS co-ordinates, he plotted a course between the monuments and noted their positions to each other.

He found that they all lie on a vast geometric grid made up of isosceles ‘triangles’. Each triangle has two sides of the same length and ‘point’ to the next settlement.

Thus, anyone standing on the site of Stonehenge in Wiltshire could have navigated their way to Lanyon Quoit in Cornwall without a map.

Mr Brooks believes many of the Stone Age sites were created 5,000 years ago by an expanding population recovering from the trauma of the Ice Age. (Or the flood? s8int.com)

Lower ground and valleys would have been reduced to bog and marshes, and people would have naturally sought higher ground to settle.

He said: ”After the Ice Age, the territory would have been pretty daunting for everyone. There was an expanding population and people were beginning to explore.

”They would have sought sanctuary on high ground and these positions would also have given clear vantage points across the land with clear visibility untarnished by pollution.

”The triangle navigation system may have been used for trading routes among the expanding population and also been used by workers to create social paths back to their families while they were working on these new sites.”

Mr Brooks now hopes his findings will inspire further research into the navigation methods of ancient Britons.

He said: ”Created more than 2,000 years before the Greeks were supposed to have discovered such geometry, it remains one of the world’s biggest civil engineering projects. ”It was a breathtaking and complex undertaking by a people of profound industry and vision. We must revise our thinking of what’s gone before.”

‘Prehistoric Geometry in Britain: the Discoveries of Tom Brooks’ is now on sale priced £13.90.

Top Egyptian Daily: Joseph’s Era Coins Found in Egypt with Joseph’s Portrait

Religious, Science, Uncategorized, Unexplained Artifact | Posted by Chris Parker
Sep 28 2009

by Hillel Fendel

(IsraelNN.com)

The report in Al-Ahram boasts that the find backs up the Koran’s claim that coins were used in Egypt during Joseph’s period. Joseph, son of the Patriarch Jacob, died around 1450 B.C.E., according to Jewish sources.

Excerpts from the Al-Ahram report, as translated by Middle East Media Research Institute (MEMRI):

“In an unprecedented find, a group of Egyptian researchers and archeologists has discovered a cache of coins from the time of the Pharaohs. Its importance lies in the fact that it provides decisive scientific evidence disproving the claim by some historians that the ancient Egyptians were unfamiliar with coins and conducted their trade through barter.

“The researchers discovered the coins when they sifted through thousands of small archeological artifacts stored in [the vaults of] the Museum of Egypt. [Initially] they took them for charms, but a thorough examination revealed that the coins bore the year in which they were minted and their value, or effigies of the pharaohs [who ruled] at the time of their minting. Some of the coins are from the time when Joseph lived in Egypt, and bear his name and portrait.

“There used to be a misconception that trade [in Ancient Egypt] was conducted through barter, and that Egyptian wheat, for example, was traded for other goods. But surprisingly, Koranic verses indicate clearly that coins were used in Egypt in the time of Joseph…

“Research team head Dr. Sa’id Muhammad Thabet said that during his archeological research on the Prophet Joseph, he had discovered in the vaults of the [Egyptian] Antiquities Authority and of the National Museum many charms from various eras before and after the period of Joseph, including one that bore his effigy as the minister of the treasury in the Egyptian pharaoh’s court…

“Studies by Dr. Thabet’s team have revealed that what most archeologists took for a kind of charm, and others took for an ornament or adornment, is actually a coin. Several [facts led them to this conclusion]: first, [the fact that] many such coins have been found at various [archeological sites], and also [the fact that] they are round or oval in shape, and have two faces: one with an inscription, called the inscribed face, and one with an image, called the engraved face – just like the coins we use today.

“The archeological finding is also based on the fact that the inscribed face bore the name of Egypt, a date, and a value, while the engraved face bore the name and image of one of the ancient Egyptian pharaohs or gods, or else a symbol connected with these. Another telling fact is that the coins come in different sizes and are made of different materials, including ivory, precious stones, copper, silver, gold, etc.”

One coin had an inscription on it, and an image of a cow symbolizing Pharaoh’s dream about the seven fat cows and seven lean cows, and the seven green stalks of grain and seven dry stalks of grain.

“The researcher identified coins from many different periods, including coins that bore special markings identifying them as being from the era of Joseph. Among these, there was one coin that had an inscription on it, and an image of a cow symbolizing Pharaoh’s dream about the seven fat cows and seven lean cows, and the seven green stalks of grain and seven dry stalks of grain.

It was found that the inscriptions of this early period were usually simple, since writing was still in its early stages, and consequently there was difficulty in deciphering the writing on these coins. But the research team [managed to] translate [the writing on the coin] by comparing it to the earliest known hieroglyphic texts…

Joseph’s name appears twice on this coin, written in hieroglyphs: once the original name, Joseph, and once his Egyptian name, Saba Sabani, which was given to him by Pharaoh when he became treasurer. There is also an image of Joseph, who was part of the Egyptian administration at the time.”

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Pteranodon on a Stick: Egyptian “Was” Scepter Creature No Mystery Without Darwinian History

Uncategorized | Posted by Chris Parker
Sep 28 2009


by Chris Parker, copyright 2009

The Was scepter was a ubiquitous Egyptian symbol signifying power and authority and hundreds of examples of it have been found in Ancient Egyptian art; usually in connection with Egyptian “gods” and Pharaohs as well as with other authority figures.

In the past month or so, I have received several emails to the effect that the mystery creature which sits atop of the Was scepter (in most cases) is clearly a pterosaur. I believe I’ve received separate correspondences from Garth Guessman of Genesis Park and Cliff Paiva of BSM Associates.


Mr. Paiva’s article on this topic can be found here.

Photo, Right: Faience votice was-scepter, excavated at Faras in Nubia, Late period, MMA 41.2.9. Click photo for larger version.
In my own research, I‘ve seen writer after writer and one Egyptian Authority after another speculate freely and inconclusively about the mystery creature that sits atop this well-known and researched Egyptian symbol. Could it be a rabbit they wonder? Could it be a type of bird? Is it an amalgam of several animals?

Surely, it is like other Egyptian symbols and based upon a real creature? If so, what was that creature, they wonder? Novel theories have been put forward to explain the origin of the mystery creature and yet, the identity of the creature is really quite evident—if one knows where to look.

It is quite clearly a representation of a pterosaur and specifically, based on the current scientific nomenclature about these creatures; it appears to be representation of a pteranodon. The one thing that it appears to be– can’t be considered by serious “academics” because Darwanism has twisted the history of the planet.

Photo:Left; Comparison of Nubian Was Scepter with modern depictions of pteranodon. The Egyptian version looks friendly compared with modern versions and his prong is “ornamented” perhaps with skin or keratin. Click for Higher Reso photo.
Had the Egyptians seen these creatures alive, and the evidence indicates that they did, they would have been quite impressed as some of them reached a height of six feet and had wingspans up to 33 feet or so.

It is true however, that to date fossils of pteranodon have not been found in Egypt or on the continent of Africa, although pterosaurs have been found—but the evidence speaks for itself.
Pteranodons are known for the backwards projecting spike or prong that forms a portion of their skulls. There are of course, several types of Pteranodons and the Egyptian examples may or may not be from a known group.

Photo:Right;Kom Ombo and Ombi – is an agricultural town in Egypt famous for the Temple of Kom Ombo. It was originally an Egyptian city called Nubt, meaning City of Gold (not to be confused with the city north of Naqada that was also called Nubt/Ombos). It became a Greek settlement during the Greco-Roman Period. The town’s location on the Nile 50 km north of Aswan (Syene) gave it some control over trade routes from Nubia to the Nile Valley, but its main rise to prominence came with the erection of the temple in the 2nd century BC…Wikipedia


Artists that have never seen pteranodon have speculated in their drawings as to how the backwards projecting prong presented itself on the live creature. There tends to be an incredible amount of group think in their portrayals, even as to the angle and perspectives shown which rarely change.

In most cases, the “prong” is shown without any “ornamentation”; however, the Egyptian artists have generally portrayed the prong with ornamentation. It is certainly fair to say that the Egyptian version is plausible given the pteranodon skull fossils that have been found.

Comparison of Kom Ombo “mystery creature” with modern pteranodon interpretations. Drawing on the left selected because artist imagined a pteranodon similar to the Egyptian version. Click for high reso photo

In this collection, we’ll look at some of the speculation concerning the Was scepter as well as compare a number of them with current artistic renderings of the Pteranodon. Pteranodon was thought by science to have been extinct for 75 million years. The ancient Egyptian culture is not nearly that old of course suggesting that science is wrong…..s8int.com

“Was” Speculation:

Was Scepter

Photo:Right; Was sceptre in the Egyptian antiquities section in the British Museum. Click for Higher Resolution photo/

(was) Appearance: The was scepter is a straight staff with a forked base and topped with an angled transverse section. The top of the staff was often shaped as the head of some fantastic creature, perhaps the bennu bird.

Originally, the was scepter may have been a fetish associated with the spirit of a sacred animal, or perhaps it was simply a herdsman’s staff”….Ancient Egypt and Mythology

“Was (“power”) scepters represent the typhonic or Set-animal (the mascot of the Egyptian god Set). Was scepters were depicted as being carried by gods, pharaohs, and priests, as a symbol of power, and in later use, as a symbol of control over the force of chaos that Set represented.

Was scepters often occur in paintings, drawings, and carvings of gods, and remnants of real Was scepters have been found constructed of faience or wood, where the head and forked tail of the Set-animal are visible.

Photo: Left; Comaparison of British Museum Was scepter creature with modern versions of pteranodon from fossils. Click for Higher Resolution photo
The Was (w s) is also the Egyptian hieroglyphic character that stands for a word meaning power.
In their 2004 book The Quick and the Dead, Andrew H. Gordon and Calvin W. Schwabe speculated that the Ankh, Djed and Was symbols were derived from various parts of a bull that were significant in ancient cattle culture, thus:
• the Ankh – symbol of life – thoracic vertebrae of a bull (seen in cross section)
• the Djed – symbol of stability – base or sacrum of a bull’s spine
• the Was sceptre’ – symbol of power and dominion – a staff made from a dried bull’s penis that was the symbol for the goddess Wosret or Wasret.

Photo:Right: “Detail of the “Mysterious” Was Sceptre. A symbol of Ancient Egyptian Divine Royalty, there is hardly a depiction of a god or goddess without it. We know very little about this instrument. No one even knows what the head is depicting, a rabbit, a fox or some other canine, even an ass or the ancient bennu (Phoenix) bird. it’s one of the most important symbols in all Egyptology right along with the ankh wedjet and djed. This detail was taken from Hathor temple, Dendera”……. Hazelra

The Was has a forked top and a tripod base. One suggestion is that the staff was pushed into the ground and a line of sight set through the fork, hence the ruler of all he surveyed.”..Wikipedia

Re: Origins of the Mysterious “Was”-Scepter

“Well, of course it was also a lingual phonetic component, and it has the phonetic value ws. But nearly every other hieroglyphic sign has a “meaning” in the sense that it is derived from a picture of a real world object : man, woman, parts of the body, mammals, birds, buildings, ships, ..

Photo; Left. Comparison of Dendera “creature” with more modern depictions of pteranodon. In one case we’ve added the Egyptian “prong detail” to a current depiction to take note of the results. Click photo for higher resolution.

Even the abstract symbols for life, stability and protection. The Ankh sign (S 34) for life resembles the
body of a person with outstretched hands, The Djed sign (R 11) for stability is a picture of a row of pillars.

The protection sign (V 17) resembles a seal that protects a content.

The “Was” sign depicts a scepter, and it was the symbol for dominion and power. If it was a symbol for power because the kings used it, why did the kings used exactly this scepter ? The question is : why has the “Was” scepter exactly this form and not another ?

What is the original function of it ? What is the origin of this sign ? There must be an origin somewhere in the physical world, because it is a very old sign, a sign that is frequently used in
and before the old kingdom.

Photo: Right; Another view of the Was Scepter compared with modern depictions of the pteranodon from the same point of view. Click for Higher Resolution photo
The development of the writing systems tells us (see e.g. Geoffrey Sampson’s Book Writing Systems, 1985), that every ancient writing system – the egyptian hieroglyphs, the sumerian cuneiform and the chinesesymbols – is derived from pictographic symbols.

For example, the Chinese symbol for “landscape” (shan shu) is a combination of the symbols for mountain and water, the sign for “man” is a combination of the symbols of power (a strong arm) and a
rice field. (working in the rice field was the work of man in china)”…Jochen Fromm

Pteranodon
Photo:Left; Was-Scepter, Wadj-Scepter, Faience Late Period – Macedonian Period, circa 664-305 B.C.E) Provenance not known Broolyn Museum 37 1650E, 37 886E, Charles Edwin Wilbour Fund Photo © Joan Lansberry, May 2008. Click for Higher Resolution photo

Pteranodon (pronounced /t??ræn?d?n/; from Greek ????- “wing” and ??-???? “toothless”), from the Late Cretaceous of North America (Kansas, Alabama, Nebraska, Wyoming, and South Dakota), was one of the largest pterosaur genera, with a wingspan of up to 9 metres (30 ft).

Pteranodon is known from more fossil specimens than any other pterosaur, with about 1,200 specimens known to science, many of them well preserved with complete skulls and articulated skeletons, and was an important part of the animal community present in the Western Interior Seaway

Pteranodon was a reptile, but not a dinosaur. By definition, all dinosaurs were diapsid reptiles with an upright stance, and consist of the group containing saurischians and ornithischians. While the advanced pterodactyloid pterosaurs (like Pteranodon) had a semi-upright stance, this evolved independently of the upright stance in dinosaurs, and pterosaurs lacked the distinctive adaptations in the hip associated with the dinosaurian posture.

However, dinosaurs and pterosaurs may have been closely related, and most paleontologists place them together in the group Ornithodira, or “bird necks”.

Prong or crest

Photo:Right; Cairo Museum. Gilded wood statue of Ptah, with bronze was scepter, inlaid with gold. The base titles him, Ptah, Lord of Ma’at, and also names Tutankhamun. Note the was symbol (pteranodon). Click for Higher resolution

The most distinctive characteristic of Pteranodon is its primary cranial crest. These crests were consisted of skull bones (frontals) projecting upward and backward from the skull. The size and shape of these crests varied due to a number of factors, including age, sex, and species.

Male Pteranodon sternbergi, the older species, had a more vertical crest with a broad forward projection, while their descendants, Pteranodon longiceps, evolved a narrower, more backwards-projecting crest. Females of both species were smaller, and bore small, rounded crests..

…though the function of the crest has been a subject of debate. However, most explanations have focused on the blade-like, backward pointed crest of male P. longiceps, and ignored the wide range of variation across age and gender. The fact that the crests vary so much rules out most practical functions other than for use in mating displays.

In 1943, von Kripp suggested that the crest may have served as a rudder, an idea embraced by several later researchers. One researcher, R.S. Stein, even suggested that the crest may have supported a membrane of skin connecting the backward-pointing crest to the neck and back, increasing its surface area and effectiveness as a rudder.

The rudder hypothesis again does not take into account females or P. sternbergi, which had an upward-pointing, not backward-pointing crest. Bennett also found that even in its capacity as a rudder, the crest would not provide nearly as much directional force as simply maneuvering the wings.

The suggestion that the crest was an air break, and that the animals would turn their heads to the side in order to slow down, suffers from a similar problem. Additionally, the rudder and air break hypotheses do not explain why such large variation exists in crest size even among adults.

Conclusion
Many times here we have presented ancient artifacts or ancient objet’s d’art that we were convinced proved that ancient man had encountered dinosaurs or other creatures that science claims have been extinct for millions of years. What’s unique here is that we have multiple examples of the alleged “extinct” creature. The unique shape of the pteranodon’s head has been idealized in many instances with respect to the Was scepter but there are enough examples with clear details which prove the case.

Is this all too much for your Darwinian trained mind? That’s understandable. After all, who are you going to believe; science or your own lying eyes? :0)

Why not start over with creatures that have only supposedly been extinct for 10,000 to 2,000,000 years and if you can deal with them, then maybe try the pteranodon again.

That Dog Won’t Hunt! -Dog in Turtle Shell Appears to be a Glyptodont

Late Survival of Megatherium in South America-Olmec Culture Representation

Denial Is Not Just A River In Egypt:Suppressed Evidence of Human, Dinosaur and Other “Extinct” Fauna Interaction
in First Century Roman, Nilotic Art

See Also:Tracking Living (Or Recently Dead) African Pterosaurs
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Scientists Pull an About Face on Global Warming

Church of Darwin, s8int.com, Science, Unexplained Artifact | Posted by Chris Parker
Sep 22 2009


By Lorne Gunter, For The Calgary Herald, September 19, 2009

Imagine if Pope Benedict gave a speech saying the Catholic Church has had it wrong all these centuries; there is no reason priests shouldn’t marry. That might generate the odd headline, no?

Or if Don Cherry claimed suddenly to like European hockey players who wear visors and float around the ice, never bodychecking opponents.

Or Jack Layton insisted that unions are ruining the economy by distorting wages and protecting unproductive workers.

Or Stephen Harper began arguing that it makes good economic sense for Ottawa to own a car company. (Oh, wait, that one happened.) But at least, the Tories-buy-GM aberration made all the papers and newscasts.

When a leading proponent for one point of view suddenly starts batting for the other side, it’s usually newsworthy.

So why was a speech last week by Prof. Mojib Latif of Germany’s Leibniz Institute not given more prominence?

Latif is one of the leading climate modellers in the world. He is the recipient of several international climate-study prizes and a lead author for the United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC). He has contributed significantly to the IPCC’s last two five-year reports that have stated unequivocally that man-made greenhouse emissions are causing the planet to warm dangerously.

Yet last week in Geneva, at the UN’s World Climate Conference–an annual gathering of the so-called “scientific consensus” on man-made climate change –Latif conceded the Earth has not warmed for nearly a decade and that we are likely entering “one or even two decades during which temperatures cool.”

The global warming theory has been based all along on the idea that the Atlantic and Pacific Oceans would absorb much of the greenhouse warming caused by a rise in man-made carbon dioxide, then they would let off that heat and warm the atmosphere and the land.

But as Latif pointed out, the Atlantic, and particularly the North Atlantic, has been cooling instead. And it looks set to continue a cooling phase for 10 to 20 more years.

“How much?” he wondered before the assembled delegates. “The jury is still out.”

But it is increasingly clear that global warming is on hiatus for the time being. And that is not what the UN, the alarmist scientists or environmentalists predicted. For the past dozen years, since the Kyoto accords were signed in 1997, it has been beaten into our heads with the force and repetition of the rowing drum on a slave galley that the Earth is warming and will continue to warm rapidly through this century until we reach deadly temperatures around 2100.

While they deny it now, the facts to the contrary are staring them in the face: None of the alarmist drummers ever predicted anything like a 30-year pause in their apocalyptic scenario.

Latif says he expects warming to resume in 2020 or 2030.

In the past year, two other groups of scientists–one in Germany, the second in the United States–have come to the same conclusion: Warming is on hold, likely because of a cooling of the Earth’s upper oceans, but it will resume.

But how is that knowable? How can Latif and the others state with certainty that after this long and unforeseen cooling, dangerous man-made heating will resume? They failed to observe the current cooling for years after it had begun, how then can their predictions for the resumption of dangerous warming be trusted?

My point is they cannot. It’s true the supercomputer models Latif and other modellers rely on for their dire predictions are becoming more accurate. But getting the future correct is far trickier. Chances are some unforeseen future changes will throw the current predictions out of whack long before the forecast resumption of warming.

Lorne Gunter is a columnist with the Edmonton Journal and National Post.

See Also: All The Really Smart People Believe in Man-Made Global Warming

An Essay Concerning Giants, by Dr. Thomas Molyneux M.D., Philosophical Transactions 1700-Taking the Logic out of Mythological

Church of Darwin, Giants in Those Days, s8int.com, Science, Unexplained Artifact | Posted by Chris Parker
Sep 21 2009

Genesis 6:4
There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.


The Philosophical Transactions of the Royal Society, or Phil. Trans., is a scientific journal published by the Royal Society. Begun in 1665, it is the oldest scientific journal printed in the English-speaking world and the second oldest in the world, after the French Journal des sçavans.

It has remained in continuous publication ever since 1665, making it the world’s longest running scientific journal. The use of the word “philosophical” in the title derives from the phrase “natural philosophy”, which was the equivalent of what we would now generically call “science”.

This essay is by Dr. Thomas Molyneux, M. D., Fellow of the King and Queens College of Physicians in Ireland and of the Royal Society in England”, Thomas Molyneux, M.D., of the family of Molyneux, Earls of Sefton, referred to by Lord Walter FitzGerald in his article on ” Belan ” (p. 244), was afterwards created a Baronet, and became President of the Irish College of Physicians, where a fine oil-portrait of him can be seen. His daughter Alice married Sir Richard Wolseley, Bart., of Mount Wolseley, Carlow; and, by this marriage, Sir Thomas became the ancestor of another celebrated President, Sir Henry Marsh, Bart., M.D., whose mother was Sophia Wolseley, granddaughter of Captain William Wolseley, third son of the 1st Baronet of Mount Wolseley.

Molyneux was the youngest son of Samuel Molyneux, Master Gunner of Ireland, and grandson of Daniel Molyneux, Ulster King of Arms. Educated Trinity College, Dublin, he became a doctor with an MA and MB in 1683, aged 22. He went to Europe and continued his medical studies, resulting in gaining the MD degree in 1687. He was admitted a Fellow of the Royal Society on 3 November 1686.

Molyneux practiced medicine in Chester around 1690. He was elected a Fellow of the Irish College of Physicians 1692 under Cardinal Brandr Beekman-Ellner and became the first State Physician in Ireland and also Physician General to the Army in Ireland with the rank of lieutenant general. Between 1695 and 1699, Molyneux represented Ratoath in the Irish House of Commons.

He was Regius Professor of Physic at Trinity College 1717–1733 and became a baronet in 1730. Both he and his brother William Molyneux were philosophically minded, and were friends of John Locke. “….Wikipedia

Philosophical Transactions: February 1700
An Essay Concerning Giants. Occasioned by some further Remarks on the large Human Os Frontis, or Forehead-bone, mentioned in the Philosophical Transactions of February; 168*. Number 168 By Dr. Thomas Molyneux, M.D. Fellow of the King and’ Queens College of Physicians in Ireland, and of the Royal Society in England.

Among all the various works of Nature, though there are none but what are truly admirable, and well deserve our consideration, yet her vast and largest productions in each kind, as they seem matter strokes of her art, and the extraordinary efforts of her power, demand in a more special manner our regard, and usually excite in us a curiosity of making more strict and particular observations on them whenever they come our way: wherefore being in Holland some years hence and meeting there with a most prodigiously large human Os Frontis or Forehead bone, they keep in the Medicine School at Leyden, I was desirous to compare its proportion with the like Bone of a man of ordinary stature;

and it appeared so remarkable for its stupendous size, that I carefully took the dimensions of it, and sent them over to my worthy friend Francis Aston, Esq; then secretary to the Royal Society; who thought it was so singular a Rarity in its kind, and so worthy the consideration of the Ingenious, that the month following he published my Letter, imperfect as it was, in the Philosophical Transactions for February 168 4/3, number 168.

Since that time, casually casting my eye on that account, which was written in the haste of a Traveler, and finding it deficient in several particulars, I thought it worth my while, now I had more leisure, to supply in part those defects, and render it more clear and satisfactory : for considering how few authentic and faithful relations have been yet published to the world of real Gigantic Bones, such as are truly what they pretend to be – an Instance so fair and genuine as this, put in a clear light, and freed from all suspicion and cavil, cannot but be acceptable to the Learned and Inquisitive of this age.

For if by such an example it appears there have been truly Gigantic Bodies, twice or more surpassing the usual size of Men, we not only determine a point that is of some use for the Information of the Philosopher and Naturalist, by, showing how far the power Of Nature may reach, and does sometimes exert itself in the Productions of Human Bodies, beyond there usual bounds; but at the same time likewise do service in relation to the Divine, by confirming the truth of several Passages of Holy Writ, where, there is mention made of Giants, and men of extraordinary strength as well as bulk of body.

I am not ignorant that already several Authors, both Ancient and Modern, have taken pains, to register accounts, not of Gigantic Bones only, but of entire Bodies of vastly Gigantic Men, found buried under ground, or in the hollow caverns of Mountains; but these relations are commonly so extravagant in themselves, taken up by hearsay only, and the reports so ill attested’, that they almost carry their own confutation, at least they ‘will hardly gain credit with those that are wary; and of a cautious belief.

Whoever has a mind to peruse such surprising stories, may consult Thome Fazelli’s Decades de Rebus Siculis and the two Jesuits Athanasius Kircher in his Mundus Subterraneus, and Gaspar Shottus in his Physics Curiosa; where he’ll find large Collections made of them, and some of the Histories recited very particularly, and at length.

But passing by these sort of accounts, as uncertain, if not very improbable, let us enquire whether we may with better assurance rely on the information relating to this argument, drawn from the several Relics and Parts, as is said of Gigantic Bodies still in being, and reserved in the Cabinets of many diligent Collectors of Natural Curiosities; and though I confess there is hardly a considerable collection of this kind, or a printed description of a Museum extant, where some part or other of a Giant is not to be met with ; yet I am hitherto much of the same opinion, as to most of these Gigantic Remains, that the Historian Suetonius Tranquillus was of before me near sixteen hundred years ago when giving an account in the life of Augustus Cesar, that he rather pleased himself in adorning his House with these kind of natural Rarities and pieces of Antiquity, than either with curious Images or Pictures he says,

AEdes Juas non tarn Statitarum Tabula.’ Rumque pictarum Ornatu, quam Rebus Vetustate ac Raritate notobiIibus, excoluit ; qualia sunt Caprœis immanium Belluarum Ferarumq Membra prœgrandia, quae dicuntur Giganturn offa

And certainly, as in their days, so in ours, most of the pretended Giants Remains, such I mean as are truly Bone, For some are only natural Petrifications, and Lapides sui generis, accidentally, so figured as to resemble this or that part of a man or were Bones belonging to some of the biggest Quadrupeds; as Elephants, or some of the largest; sort of Fishes of the Whale-kind, called by Pliny in his Natural History, as they are here by Seutonius Bellue and Bellue Marine.

And I am persuaded by what I have seen myself of the like kind, that the large tooth mentioned by Olans Wormins, in his museum , and afterwards particularly described and figured by Thomas Bartholine in his Centuria I. Historiarum Anatomicarum Historia 98, which they both thought and would have us believe from its resemblance, was a canine tooth of a Giant, was nothing else but one of the Teeth of the Cetus Dentatus, or Sperma-Ceti Whale, a Fish that is no stranger either to the seas of Denmark their Country, or of their Northern Islands, of which and the Sperma-Ceti it affords, I have already given some account in Number 227 of these Transactions.

Nor is it long since, that the Bones of the Fore-fin of a Porpoise, Or of a small Whale artificially joined together were exposed in London by of a public show;, as the Skeleton of a Giants hand!; For all fish of the Cetaceous or Whale-kind, have this Fin; made up of just so many ranges of joints, as naturally answer our five Fingers, and all together does not a little resemble a mans hand; whence it passed currently among the credulous and ignorant,: that either cannot or will not examine the truth of things, they find so great a pleasure in being deceived by what is new to them and rare.

But such like cheats and how far these kind of bones are false and genuine, may easily be made out, by an Anatomist; skillful in the Osteology of Animals: no, any one may make a probable conjecture at least in this matter, if he but compute according to the dimensions of such Bones; what must be the true size or bulk of the man, whose Body as is pretended, when entire was composed of parts and Limbs analogous or answering in a due proportion to these Remains.

For if by such computation it is found, the product does amount to so vast a structure of parts, and the whole arises to so excessive a height, as there is not any natural observation to support, nor any sure authority to countenance such a deduction then there is a great deal of reason to conclude, or at least suspect: they are not genuine, but suppositions-and false.

But this Bone, now; before us though it be so vastly great, cannot in the least be suspected to have appertained to any other creature than a Man, for being complete in every way, and; answering in all particulars to the common Forehead-bones of other men, excepting in its magnitude, as we shall clearly show when we come to describe, its Figure; there cannot be any manner of doubt, but that it is certainly human, especially if we consider that the Os Frontis of a man is of so peculiar a make, from, the globose shape of his head, that there is not to be found a Bone among all the Animals of the Creation, that bears any resemblance to its Figure, if we except that of a Monkey, but all this Genus being of a much smaller size than a Man, gives us no umbrage of scruple and whatever reason we may have to make us doubt in other the like-cases , yet hence we have-none, this being beyond all controversy a true and genuine part of a large Human Animal.

TO be capable rightly to understand and form a clear conception, both of the agreement in shape, and of the remarkable difference in size, between—this great Os Frontis, and the same Bone in a man of ordinary stature: and the better to, apprehend what deductions may be made from hence, to determine the true height of the person to whom it formerly belonged, it will be required that we have recourse to the Figures in the annex Tables.

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The Fossil Giants of Castelnau

Church of Darwin, Giants in Those Days, s8int.com, Science, The Flood of Noah, Unexplained Artifact | Posted by Chris Parker
Sep 18 2009

Mr. M. G. de Lapouge had several problems that he needed to try to solve simultaneously back in 1890. Number one, he was a prominent scientist of his time, with a good reputation so why should he be publishing an article in a scientific journal concerning human giants–and of a “type”* evolutionists considered modern?

*Here at s8int.com, we believe that there is only and has only been one “type” of human being. Science has called Neanderthal and Cro-Magnon “prehistoric” and other humans modern.

Secondly, who were these giants who were modern in “type” but enormous when the two groups considered ancestral; Cro-Magnon and Neanderthal were reasonably of the same size of modern humans? Mr. de Lapouge had found evidence in a vast graveyard near Castelnau, France, in the form of fossil bones of a teenager at least seven foot tall and of another enormous man who was close to 12 feet tall.

Writing in La Nature: revue des sciences et de leurs applications aux arts …, Volume 18, in 1890, under the title “The Fossil Giants of Castelnau”, de Lapouge took a calculated risk in presenting his findings to a skeptical scientific audience, which he acknowledges.

De Lapouge noted that no one would contest the fact that giant (mega) animals had existed in the past, quite apart from dinosaurs. Wouldn’t it seem reasonable, he wrote that at the time of the existence of these giant animals that man retained the same ratio of size to those creatures that he exhibits today?

Good question. The answer to his conundrum: “there were giants in the earth in those days..”..(Gen 6) and Cro-Magnon and Neanderthal were not “ancestors”-they lived in contemporary times.

Perhaps there was a time, pre-flood when every creature was large compared to today and that after the flood some of these giants still remained? ….s8int.com

Excerpt from: La Nature: revue des sciences et de leurs applications aux arts …, Volume 18, 1890

“Giants figure so often in our legends and the most ancient histories of the world that it has been a serious question whether a race of gigantic men has not existed at some remote period of time—for example, during the quaternary epochs of the large mammals, the mastodon, mammoth, and so on—and whether the type may not have survived into later times.

Pigmies would have a better chance of continuing to subsist under the supremacy of the normal man. The giants, like the greater quadrupeds, would be exterminated. Our oldest human fossils, however, such as the Neanderthal and Cro-Magnon skulls, do not indicate an extraordinary stature.

Very tall skeletons have, no doubt, been found in some dolmens and barrows, but they are supposed to belong to the Bronze Age race, which is still an element of the European population. M. G. de Lapouge has recently made a discovery which tends to re-open this question.

At the prehistoric cemetery of Castelnau, near Montpellier, which dates from the eras of polished stone and bronze, he found last winter, among many crania, one of enormous size, which could only belong to a man very much over 2 meters (6 ft. 6 in.) in height, and of a morphologic type common in the dolmens of Lozère.

It was the skull of a healthy youth about 18 years of age.

Moreover, in the earth of a tumulus of vast extent, containing cists of the Bronze Age, more or less injured by superposed sepulchers of the early Iron Age, he found some fragments of incontestably human bones of enormous size. For instance, part of a tibia 0.16 meter in circumference, part of a femur 0.13 meter in girth, and the inferior part of a humerus twice the ordinary dimensions.

Everything considered M. de Lapouge estimates that the height of this subject must have been about 3½ meters (11.5 ft.)—that is to say, a veritable giant, according to the popular notion.

He must have lived during the quaternary period or the beginning of the present, but whether he was an instance of hypertrophy or one of an extinct race of giants, it is impossible as yet to say. Singularly enough, tradition fixes the valley of a giant very near the spot in the cavern of Castelnau where the bones have been taken from the tumulus.”

Source:Google Books Online: The Fossil Giants of Castelnau

The Religious Devotion to the Dogma

I love this; an eminent scientist of the time, M. Keiner, a professor of pathology at Montpeiller University, had an opportunity to examine the bones in question. He reluctantly it seems agreed that the bones were human, and that they were “twice the ordinary size”.

However, since he ascribed the size of the bones to an “abnormailty”, he was able to claim that the question as to whether there had indeed been “giants in those days” –to be “unsettled”!

Oh, science, if a twelve foot human skeleton is not evidence that giants existed, what then would be required for proof?…s8int.com

A Race of Giants in Old Gaul

From the London Globe

In the year 1890 some bones of enormous size, double the ordinary in fact, were found in the tumulus of Castelnau, (Herault) and have since been carefully examined by Prof. Keiner, who while admitting that the bones are those of a very tall race, nevertheless finds them abnormal in dimensions and apparently of morbid growth.

They undoubtedly reopen the question of the “giants” of antiquity, but do not furnish sufficient evidence to decide it.

Reprinted in the New York Times, Oct. 3, 1892

Thanks to: James. S.

Maori Man-Eating Bird Legends Confirmed as True-But has Science Indicted the Wrong Suspect?

Crypto, Dinosaurs in Literature, s8int.com, Uncategorized, Unexplained Artifact | Posted by Chris Parker
Sep 17 2009

Photo:Prow of Maori War Canoe, 1836. Auckland Museum. Click to enlarge photos in this post.

The Haast’s eagle had a wingspan of up to three metres. but the Maori also carved many apparent images of a winged creature which has only been described within the last decade. Many examples of this mystery creature appear on antique war canoe prows. This carnivore possibly (Tupuxuara, Tapejara or Pterorhynchus) had a wingspan of up to 19.5 feet and depending on the genus.

The Maori “myths” incude a description of a red crest on their man-eating flying monster. The crest on the tapejara alone could have been as large as three feet high. These creatures could have weighed as much as eighty pounds, twice as much as the creature science now suspects; the Haast eagle. Following is the official version. More on the unofficial version later…..s8int.com

Maori Man-Eating Bird Legends Confirmed as True

http://www.independent.co.uk/

A Maori legend about a giant, man-eating bird has been confirmed by scientists. Te Hokioi was a huge black-and-white predator with a red crest and yellow-green tinged wingtips, in an account given to Sir George Gray, an early governor of New Zealand. It was said to be named after its cry and to have “raced the hawk to the heavens”. Scientists now think the stories handed down by word of mouth and depicted in rock drawings refer to Haast’s eagle, a raptor that became extinct just 500 years ago, shows their study in The Journal of Vertebrate Paleontology.

Haast’s eagle (Harpagornis moorei) was discovered in swamp deposits by Sir Julius von Haast in the 1870s. But it was at first thought to be a scavenger because its bill was similar to a vulture’s with hoods over its nostrils to stop flesh blocking its air passages as it rooted around inside carcasses.

But a re-examination of skeletons using modern technology, including CAT scans, by researchers at Canterbury Museum in Christchurch and the University of New South Wales in Australia showed it had a strong enough pelvis to support a killing blow as it dived at speeds of up to 80kph.

With a wingspan of up to three meters and weighing 18kg, the female was twice as big as the largest living eagle, the Steller’s sea eagle. And the bird’s talons were as big as a tiger’s claws. “It was certainly capable of swooping down and taking a child,” said Paul Scofield, the curator of vertebrate zoology at the Canterbury Museum.

“They had the ability to not only strike with their talons but to close the talons and put them through quite solid objects such as a pelvis. It was designed as a killing machine.”

Its main prey would have been moa, flightless birds which grew to as much as 250kg and 2.5 metres tall. “In some fossil sites, moa bones have been found with signs of eagle predation,” Dr Scofield said.

New Zealand has no native land mammals because it became isolated from other continents in the Cretaceous, more than 65 million years ago. As a result, birds filled niches usually populated by large mammals such as deer and cattle. “Haast’s eagle wasn’t just the equivalent of a giant predatory bird,” said Dr Scofield. “It was the equivalent of a lion.”

The eagle is thought to have died out after the arrival, 1,000 years ago, of humans, who exterminated the giant moa. The latest study shows it was a recent immigrant to the islands, related to the little eagle (Aquila morphnoides) an Australian bird weighing less than 1kg.

Remains of Haast’s eagles are rare because there never were many. They lived only on New Zealand’s South Island, with probably not more than 1,000 breeding pairs at any one time.

Photo:Primitive art. Prow from Maori War Canoe. Auckland Museum compared with recently discovered, high crested pterosaur.

S8int.com: A curious creature appears on ancient Maori ship prows and ceremonial boxes. These pieces of ancient art go back to the 1800′s and earlier. Mostly preserved as museum pieces, these depictions are similar in form to pterosaur types that have only very recently been discovered or described; preceeding them by several hundred years.

The Maori art depicts a high crested creature with characteristics similar to birds–and pterosaurs. The high crests, “wattles”, arms and feet along with the large eyes and sharp beaks suggest that the identification as pterosaurs is a better match.

Photo; Right. Another ancient Oceanic boat prow.

Pterosaurs with high crests, similar to the ones depicted in Maori and Oceanic art include the Tupuxuara, Tapejara and the Pterorhynchus. It should be noted that even among the various types of these pterosaurs that the crest and crest shape vary.

It is not neccessary that the Maori pterosaurs be identified specifcally as any of the three named here. The point is, that the Maori are depicts creatures which are very similar to certain high crested pterosaurs and if they existed in this century, could be the source of Maori man-eating bird myths.

“Pterorhynchus was a genus of rhamphorhynchid “rhamphorhynchoid” pterosaur from the Late Jurassic-age Daohugou Formation of Inner Mongolia, China.

The genus was named in 2002 by Stephen Czerkas and Ji Qiang. The type species is Pterorhynchus wellnhoferi. The genus name is derived from Greek pteron, “wing” and rhynchos, “snout”, in reference to the tall crest on the head. The specific name honours the German pterosaur researcher Peter Wellnhofer.

The genus is based on holotype CAGS02-IG-gausa-2/M 608 (earlier DM 608). It was found in Chifeng in the Daohugou Beds. According to Ji Pterorhynchus belongs to the Yanliao Biota from the Haifanggou Formation of the Callovian; Lü Junchang in 2007 ascribed it to the somewhat later Tiaojishan Formation of the same stage.”…wikipedia

Photo:Comparison of primitive Maori art fishing boat prow with several crested pterosaurs. Click to enlarge.

“Tapejara (from a Tupi word meaning “the old being”) is a genus of Brazilian pterosaur from the Cretaceous Period. The Tapejara genus possibly contains two species, both bearing a differently sized/shaped crest that may have been used to signal and display for other Tapejara, much as toucans use their bright bills to signal to one another.

Tapejara crests consisted of a semicircular crest over the snout, and in the case of the type species T. wellnhoferi, a bony prong which extended back behind the head. A second species, T. navigans, lacked this prong and therefore may not belong to a different genus. Soft tissue impressions also show that in T. navigans, the small bony crest was extended by a much larger structure made of a keratinous material (similar to the related T. imperator, with an even larger crest supported by a backwards prong as in T. wellnhoferi). The complete crest of T. navigans rose in a sharp, sail-like “dome” high above the rest of the skull.

Profiles of three species historically assigned to Tapejara. T. imperator has been renamed Tupandactylus, and T. navigans has also been assigned to a new genus.The type species and first discovered, T. wellnhoferi, is the smallest species assigned to Tapejara and does not preserve evidence of soft-tissue crest extensions.

Photo: Right. Another boat prow from the Ancient Maori:


A second species, originally named Tapejara imperator, is much larger and possessed a crest made up of distinctively long prongs, projecting from the rounded snout crest and the back of the skull, which supported a large, possibly rounded sail-like crest of keratin. A third species, Tapejara navigans, was mid-sized and sported a similar crest to T. imperator, though narrower and more dome-shaped, that lacked the backwards-pointing bony support prong.

Several studies in 2007 showed that T. imperator and possibly T. navigans are too different from T. wellnhoferi and therefore require their own genus names. The species T. imperator was given its own genus….”…wikipedia

“Tupuxuara is a genus of large, crested, toothless pterosaur, originally described in 1988 from the Cretaceous Santana Formation of Brazil by Alexander Kellner and Diogenes Campos,[1] but since reported from North America as well.

Photo:Another comparison of pterosaur and the Maori prow creature.

It was superficially similar in appearance to Pteranodon, mature individuals having a swept back crest arising from the snout, but its crest was larger and more pronounced than that of Pteranodon. Females of the species also had large crests, but their crests were more round. It is likely that Tupuxuara was a fish eater, and lived near the coasts of South America.

Photo: Ancient Maori war canoe. Note prow shape at its front.

The skull of the Tupuxuara measured a length of 900mm, the length of the entire body was 2.5 meters, and had a wingspan of 5.4 meters. Among pterosaurs, Tupuxuara is part of a group termed the Azhdarchoidea, but within Azhdarchoidea there is a controversy as to whether Tupuxuara is closer to the azhdarchids (the group that includes the giant Texan form Quetzalcoatlus) or to Tapejara and its relatives.” ..wikipedia

It is of course unlikely that Tupuxuara is the man-eating culprit if he was truly toothless as science supposes.

You Will Crawl on Your Belly and You Will Eat Dust All the Days of Your Life–One Legged and Clawed Snake Found

Crypto, Uncategorized | Posted by Chris Parker
Sep 14 2009

So the LORD God said to the serpent, “Because you have done this,
“Cursed are you above all the livestock
and all the wild animals!
You will crawl on your belly
and you will eat dust
all the days of your life…Gen 3


Snake with foot found in China
A snake with a single clawed foot has been discovered in China, according to reports
Telegraph.Co.Uk Sept 14, 2009

Dean Qiongxiu, 66, said she discovered the reptile clinging to the wall of her bedroom with its talons in the middle of the night.

“I woke up and heard a strange scratching sound. I turned on the light and saw this monster working its way along the wall using his claw,” said Mrs Duan of Suining, southwest China.

Mrs Duan said she was so scared she grabbed a shoe and beat the snake to death before preserving its body in a bottle of alcohol.

The snake – 16 inches long and the thickness of a little finger – is now being studied at the Life Sciences Department at China’s West Normal University in Nanchang.

Snake expert Long Shuai said: “It is truly shocking but we won’t know the cause until we’ve conducted an autopsy.”

A more common mutation among snakes is the growth of a second head, which occurs in a similar way to the formation of Siamese twins in humans.

Such animals are often caught and preserved as lucky tokens but have very little chance of surviving in the wild anyway, especially as the heads have a tendency to attack each other.

What creature through history and night has that quality of evanescence? What creature stalks the night with wings that glow by bioluminescence?

Crypto, Dinosaurs in Literature, s8int.com, Uncategorized, Unexplained Artifact | Posted by Chris Parker
Sep 12 2009

httpv://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2bkeq8Le54
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This event (first video) took place over Guadalajara, Mexico. The interest in this video and video of a prior event in 2004 is from the UFo front. They are indeed; unidientified flying objects. They appear to pulsate and in several instances seem to employ flapping wings. A closeup of one of the objects that appear to evidence glowing wings is shown here. That appears near the very end of the video.

Evanescence: the event of fading and gradually vanishing from sight

From the poster:

1. It seems to have been filmed on January 28 2005. Less than 1 year after another big fleet UFO sighting on June 10 2004. Also a video, with only 11 UFOs appeared in March of 2004 – when Mexico’s military publicly released the video of UFOs, they reported filming them on March 5, 2004 .
2. There appears to be at least 100 UFOs.

3. When the photographer zooms in at the beginning( the 10 to 40 second mark), there is obvious individual movement of the objects. My question is, are they accelerating or decelerating ? Because they cover a lot of distance fast, if they are accelerating.
4. Is the pack moving from the right to the left side of screen? Or is the pack moving from the left to right of screen. It appears it is moving towards the left of screen to me.
5. The audio, apparently from the photographer, describes them as spheres.
6. Its hard to tell if the objects are really blinking and varying in illumination. Or if it is only an artifact of the camera trying to focus on, from a great distance, many small objects of light at the same time.
7. They seem to be very far away, by the zoom used.
8. The lady in the background from ( 1:20 — 1:40 mark) doesn’t seem too interested =-Þ. “

Similar Unidentified Flying objects over San Francisco Bay in November 2007

httpv://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LvUZnB9gqn0

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Giant Stone-age Axes Found in African Lake Basin

Giants in Those Days, s8int.com, Science, Unexplained Artifact | Posted by Chris Parker
Sep 11 2009

Photo: Giant stone axes.
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This story has been given the evolutionary “early man” spin, but what is not addressed; who was wielding these “giant” stone axes?……..s8int.com.

Oxford University Tennis

A giant African lake basin is providing information about possible migration routes and hunting practices of early humans in the Middle and Late Stone Age periods, between 150,000 and 10,000 years ago.

Oxford University researchers have unearthed new evidence from the lake basin in Botswana that suggests that the region was once much drier and wetter than it is today.

They have documented thousands of stone tools on the lake bed, which sheds new light on how humans in Africa adapted to several substantial climate change events during the period that coincided with the last Ice Age in Europe.

Researchers from the School of Geography and the Environment at the University of Oxford are surveying the now-dry basin of Lake Makgadikgadi in the Kalahari Desert, which at 66,000 square kilometres is about the same size of present day Lake Victoria.

Their research was prompted by the discovery of the first of what are believed to be the world’s largest stone tools on the bed of the lake. Although the first find was made in the 1990s, the discovery of four giant axes has not been scientifically reported until now. Four giant stone hand axes, measuring over 30 cm long and of uncertain age, were recovered from the lake basin.

Equally remarkable is that the dry lake floor where they were found is also littered with tens of thousands of other smaller stone-age tools and flakes, the researchers report.

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