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Anecdotal Evidence for the Continued Existence of Bi-pedal Dinosaurs

Crypto, Dinosaurs in Literature, s8int.com, Science, Uncategorized, Unexplained Artifact | Posted by Chris Parker
Aug 26 2007

It’s certainly possible that some of the creatures carried aboard the ark which are now called dinosaurs still exist. If so, it should be easier to believe that their species survived the global flood—than the 40 million years science claims for their extinction.

One recurrent description of bi-pedal dinosaur-like creatures is that they resemble kangaroos or in some cases, giant kangaroos. Are the sightings of these kangaroo-like creatures actually bi-pedal dinosaurs?

 

 

1) Colorado…..But, you simply have to hear what witnesses around Cortez, Colorado are saying about the mystery lizard.

Is something out there?

Is there something bizarre that shows itself only once in a while to a few astounded human beings? 

“It was a Jurassic Park flashback. I mean I was—I couldn’t believe it,” says Shannon Ystesund.

Ystesund and a girlfriend were driving down this road the night of July 5. She says a creature ran in front of the headlights, a very big lizard, nearly vertical, running on its hind legs.

“We were, you know, freaked out. Immediately we thought it was some kind of dinosaur or a huge lizard. So we came home,” she says.

2) Chile…..Strange creatures described as “dinosaur-like” and standing 2 meters (6 feet, 6 inches) tall have been seen in recent weeks in Pampa Acha, a small town 17 kilometers (10 miles) from the city of Arica in northern Chile.

The “two strange creatures, described as small dinosaurs and with a physical appearance similar to that of a kangaroo, were reported by the occupants of a Terrano pickup truck between Iquique and Arica on Thursday night,” July 30, 2004.

“The vehicle’s driver, Dario Riquelme, was traveling in the company of (Chilean) Army official Hernan Cuevas, his wife and two young children. According to his account, the situation which left the family rather nervous and confused at 9:30 p.m. that evening.

The event took place in the Pampa Acha sector, only a few moments before passing” the barrio “Presencias Tutelares, 17 kilometers south of Arica.” “Riquelme and his party left Iquique,” just south of Chile’s border with Peru “at 6 p.m. They were only a few minutes away from Arica and were holding a normal conversation when something strange darted in front of the vehicle.”

“’My companion said, ‘Look at that tremendous beast!’ and I managed to hit the brakes. Then, after a few minutes, the second one ambled past, and it was even more startling because it was just like a dinosaur, walking on two legs. It had very noticeable thighs,’ Riquelme said.”

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Aug 25 2007

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New Hollywood Documentary Takes on Darwinsm and Scientific Suppression

Church of Darwin, Science, Uncategorized | Posted by Chris Parker
Aug 25 2007

Ben Steins BLOG 

I’m Ben Stein – many of you know me from the classic film, “Ferris Bueller’s Day Off,” or from my Comedy Central show “Win Ben Stein’s Money”. Still others of you may know me as a speechwriter, for presidents Richard Nixon and Gerald Ford. You may even have read my books, attended one of my lectures at The American University, Washington DC, or seen me on the talk shows.

I’m glad you found this site, because I want to share with you my thoughts from time to time here about a subject that is very near and dear to me: freedom. EXPELLED: No Intelligence Allowed is a controversial, soon-to-be-released documentary that chronicles my confrontation with the widespread suppression and entrenched discrimination that is spreading in our institutions, laboratories and most importantly, in our classrooms, and that is doing irreparable harm to some of the world’s top scientists, educators, and thinkers.

America is not America without freedom. In every turning point in our history, freedom has been the key goal we are seeking: the Mayflower coming here, the Revolution, the Civil War, World War II, the Cold War. Tens of millions came here from foreign oppression and made a life here. Why? For freedom. Human beings are supposed to live in a state of freedom. Freedom is not conferred by the state: as our founders said, and as Martin Luther King repeated, freedom is God-given.

A huge part of this freedom is freedom of inquiry.

Freedom of inquiry is basic to human advancement. There would be no modern medicine, no antibiotics, no brain surgery, no Internet, no air conditioning, no modern travel, no highways, no knowledge of the human body without freedom of inquiry.

This includes the ability to inquire whether a higher power, a being greater than man, is involved with how the universe operates. This has always been basic to science. ALWAYS.

Some of the greatest scientists of all time, including Galileo, Newton, Einstein, operated under the hypothesis that their work was to understand the principles and phenomena as designed by a creator.

Operating under that hypothesis, they discovered the most important laws of motion, gravity, thermodynamics, relativity, and even economics.

Now, I am sorry to say, freedom of inquiry in science is being suppressed.

Under a new anti-religious dogmatism, scientists and educators are not allowed to even think thoughts that involve an intelligent creator. Do you realize that some of the leading lights of “anti-intelligent design” would not allow a scientist who merely believed in the possibility of an intelligent designer/creator to work for him… EVEN IF HE NEVER MENTIONED the possibility of intelligent design in the universe?EVEN FOR HIS VERY THOUGHTS… HE WOULD BE BANNED.

In today’s world, at least in America, an Einstein or a Newton or a Galileo would probably not be allowed to receive grants to study or to publish his research.

They cannot even mention the possibility that–as Newton or Galileo believed–these laws were created by God or a higher being. They could get fired, lose tenure, have their grants cut off. This can happen. It has happened. EXPELLED: No Intelligence Allowed comes to theaters near you in February 2008. To learn more, check out my blog here often … and explore the rest of our site for new developments, or to volunteer to help spread the word.

Sincerely,

Ben Stein

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Dogon Dinosaur Update

Crypto, Dinosaurs in Literature, s8int.com, Science, Uncategorized, Unexplained Artifact | Posted by Chris Parker
Aug 18 2007

UPDATE

When we discovered this artifact online, it had already been purchased by our friend Vance Nelson at CreationTruthMinistries.org. He currently has it in his possession and this new photo is Copyright CreationTruthMinistries.

Looking at the piece again we were struck by how detailed it actually is; the “skin” of the “dinosaur” could also provide evidence that the artist actually saw a living version of the creature at a time scientific depictions of dinosaurs were still “primitive”.

Note the diamond shapes that cover the entire creature. Does that feature match up with any modern dinosaur discoveries we wondered; remembering that we thought the artifact represented an Ornithopod dinosaur.

Hadrosaur Skeleton Found

“The hadrosaur skeleton itself — which includes parts of the hip, a femur, part of a foot, and a 10-foot section of tail that is missing its tip — is already an uncommon discovery because it is the most complete dinosaur skeleton, and the first crested hadrosaur, ever discovered in southern Utah’s Grand Staircase-Escalante National Monument, says Alan Titus, a BLM paleontologist with the monument. “Geology and paleontology were part of the reason this monument was established,” Titus says.

This specimen is also special because many of the skin impressions were found in direct contact with the bone, so scientists can place with confidence the different scale patterns on particular parts of the dinosaur, Titus adds.

The specimen has two distinct skin patterns, says David Gillette, the dig’s lead scientist and a curator of the Museum of Northern Arizona. A diamond-shaped pattern was found near the tail’s tip, he says, while a more irregular and polygonal pattern was uncovered closer to the hip”.

Living Dinosaur Sighting

“The expedition brought to the public the testimony of missionary Joseph Ellis who in November of 1971 saw an unusual reptilian animal cross the river in front of him. – Joe was in a 30-foot long dugout motoring his way upstream to Mataba to teach the Bible class to the natives.

At a place in the river that was about 200 feet wide he saw an animal, which he estimated, was 30 feet long (as long as his dugout) cross the river in front of him. The animal had visible diamond shaped objects down the center of its entire length of its body. It was either swimming or walking on the bottom. (The river bottom was an estimated 15 feet deep.) Most of the animal was submerged and not clearly seen out of the water.”

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Discoveries at Bimini: Columns, Marble Building Ruins, and Possible Building Foundations in 100-Feet of Water

Science, Sophistication of Ancestors, The Flood of Noah, Uncategorized, Unexplained Artifact | Posted by Chris Parker
Aug 17 2007

By Dr. Greg Little, Alternate Perceptions Magazine, August 2007  

Bimini Video Part 1
Bimini Video Part 2

..The present thinking in the ARE’s Search For Atlantis Project is that evidence of an ancient maritime culture has been found at Bimini, Andros, and Cay Sal Bank in the Bahamas. The project has widened its scope in an effort to find definitive evidence of this culture.

With the 1968 announcement of the discovery of the Bimini Road, which is a 1900-foot long J-shaped formation of stone in shallow water off Bimini, interest in Bimini intensified. While early researchers enthusiastically accepted the Bimini Road as ruins from Atlantis, a few skeptics, most claiming backgrounds as geologists, have made a contrary assertion.

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Enigmatic Carvings on Underwater Ruins in China Mystify Investigators

Science, Sophistication of Ancestors, Uncategorized, Unexplained Artifact | Posted by Chris Parker
Aug 14 2007

Underwatertimes.com News Service

Fuxian Lake, Yunnan Province, China (Jul 1, 2006 22:18 EST)

In an underwater investigation in Fuxian Lake, Yunnan Province, China, started on June 13, archeologists discovered remains of a group of huge ancient buildings at the bottom of the lake. In the past few days, the investigation team found numerous regularly placed stones featuring mysterious carvings.

The new discoveries proved that the magnificent architecture was built by civilized human beings, but cast doubt on experts’ previous suppositions. According to Life News (a Chinese newspaper), it was recorded in historical documents that a city named Yuyuan was established in the Fuxian Lake area in the Western Han Dynasty (206BC-24AD), but this city stopped in historical records after the Sui and Tang Dynasty (589-907AD).

Local legend has it that Yuyuan City and its people sank to the bottom of Fuxian Lake. An earlier expedition into Fuxian Lake was done under the assumption that the ruins belonged to either the sunken city Yuyuan or the capital of the ancient Dian Kingdom. But the second expedition yielded evidence contradicting this assumption: the buildings were made of stone, while both the cities of Dian and Yuyuan were constructed largely from wood and clay.

A Large City That Was Never Documented

Sonar surveys have shown that the architecture complex at the bottom of Fuxian Lake covers approximately 2.4 square kilometers (10.8 million square feet), larger than the capital of the Han Dynasty. People cannot help but wonder why such a large city left no trace in historical records.

An Underwater Pyramid More Advanced Than the Egyptian Pyramids

In the remains under Fuxian Lake, one of the structures resembles a pyramid. This pyramid seems to be more advanced than the Egyptian pyramids, as the stones are ornamented with various designs and symbols.

Enigmatic Carvings

Amongst the many engraved stones, one stone has attracted particular attention. On the top right of the stone is carved a small circle surrounded by seven radial lines, resembling the Sun. On the left side of the stone is carved a similar circle, but with only four radial lines.

According to experts, a Sun-shaped intaglio [type of carving] on a stone is very rare. Such suns with four radial lines were found on bronze drums from the Spring and Autumn Period (722-481BC). However, the symbol on the stone is believed to be even older than that—far more than 1,800 years old.

The investigation team also found on the stones some carvings resembling masks. The flat cheeks and indented teeth of the masks do not match the facial characteristics of human beings(Chinese).

Other marks found at the site include “0” and “1” signs and seven holes carved in a neat design in the stones. Some simple line drawings were also found, one of which resembles a human face. On some other stones were carved signs looking like Roman numeral “1” and the English letter “y” arranged in a row.

Experts admitted it is not yet possible to decipher these symbols.

If the underwater relics are indeed far older than 1,800 years old, the scientists will have to explain what tools could have been used for such carvings at that time.

A Radical New View of Human Civilization Reported in Science
Many Civilized Urban Areas Existed at the Same Time – About 5,000 years ago

Science, Sophistication of Ancestors, Uncategorized, Unexplained Artifact | Posted by Chris Parker
Aug 05 2007

Photo from Civilization III 

Many urban centers crossed arc of Middle Asia 5,000 years ago

A radically expanded view of the origin of civilization, extending far beyond Mesopotamia, is reported by journalist Andrew Lawler in the 3 August issue of Science.

Mesopotamia is widely believed to be the cradle of civilization, but a growing body of evidence suggests that in addition to Mesopotamia, many civilized urban areas existed at the same time – about 5,000 years ago – in an arc that extended from Mesopotamia east for thousands of kilometers across to the areas of modern India and Pakistan, according to Lawler.

“While Mesopotamia is still the cradle of civilization in the sense that urban evolution began there,” Lawler said, “we now know that the area between Mesopotamia and India spawned a host of cities and cultures between 3000 B.C.E. and 2000 B.C.”

Evidence of shared trade, iconography and other culture from digs in remote areas across this arc were presented last month at a meeting in Ravenna, Italy of the International Association for the Study of Early Civilizations in the Middle Asian Intercultural Space. The meeting was the first time that many archaeologists from more than a dozen countries gathered to discuss the fresh finds that point to this new view of civilization’s start. Science’s Lawler was the only journalist present.

Archaeologists shared findings from dozens of urban centers of approximately the same age that existed between Mesopotamia and the Indus River valley in modern day India and Pakistan. The researchers are just starting to sketch out this new landscape, but it’s becoming clear that these centers traded goods and could have shared technology and architecture. Recovered artifacts such as beads, shells, vessels, seals and game boards show that a network linked these civilizations.

Researchers have also found hints, such as similar ceremonial platforms, that these cultures interacted and even learned from one another. A new excavation near Jiroft in southeastern Iran, for example, has unearthed tablets with an unknown writing system. This controversial find highlights the complexity of the cultures in an area long considered a backwater, Lawler explained.

These urban centers are away from the river valleys that archaeologists have traditionally focused on, according to Lawler. Archaeologists now have access to more remote locations and are expanding their studies.

….EurekAlert 

Faith Destroyed by “Mythical” Creatures in the Bible?

Church of Darwin, Dinosaurs in Literature, Religious, s8int.com, Science, Uncategorized, Unexplained Artifact | Posted by Chris Parker
Aug 04 2007

“If anyone is ashamed of me and my words, the Son of Man will be ashamed of him when he comes in his glory and in the glory of the Father and of the holy angels.”..Luke 9

Photo: Fossil Rhamphorynchus.

We came across this sad statement on the internet, some of which is excerpted below.

Apparently, this poor man was once a self confessed; “Bible believing Christian”, but is now embarrassed to have been one, because of the numerous “absurdities” in the Bible that someone had brought to his attention.

Among the “absurdities” that caused him to lose his faith are; dragons, fiery dragons, cockatrices and unicorns.

He wrote:

“In Numbers 21:6 we find the lord of the Bible sending “fiery serpents” to torment the people. What a great guy this Bible god must be! It reads, “And the Lord sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people; and much people of Israel died.” And God is love??? To date, there never has been “fiery serpents.” And I don’t think there ever will be. In another case of the Bible God letting anger and hatred get the best of him is Jeremiah 8:17 – “For, behold, I will send serpents, cockatrices, among you, which will not be charmed, and they shall bite you, saith the Lord.

A cockatrice, is another mythological creature. It is supposed to be a serpent that can kill just by looking at someone. Guess what – they’re not real. And neither is the Bible – thank God!…..

Probably the best known of all the mythical monsters that is found in the Bible is the dragon. There are 16 separate references to this mythological beast! And they’re not only mentioned in a figurative way.

Malachi 1:3 states: “And I hated Esau, and laid his mountains and his heritage waste for the dragons of the wilderness.” Again, another mythological creature in a book of myth.

After these absurdities were brought to my attention I was even more embarrassed that at one time I was a Bible believing Christian. You can’t be a Christian and still embrace your God-given reason.”

Our Response

Now, we know that Satan attacks the faith of Christians and in fact are warned to be on the look out for him because he prowls around as a roaring lion, seeking who he can devour. 1 Peter 5:8.

Now, we know that Satan attacks the faith of Christians and in fact are warned to be on the look out for him because he prowls around as a roaring lion, seeking who he can devour. 1 Peter 5:8.

Now, we know that Satan attacks the faith of Christians and in fact are warned to be on the look out for him because he prowls around as a roaring lion, seeking who he can devour. 1 Peter 5:8.

Unfortunately, this brother apparently made a quick meal for him. He’s not the first Christian to wonder about these things, but he has chosen to reject the Bible because of what he believes were mythological creatures and accepts one of the biggest myths ever created; evolution.

He has forsaken Christianity and the priesthood of believers on the word of the high priests of science and our hearts have to go out to him.

Because these concerns he has are central to some of the things we cover on this site, we thought we’d take a few moments to show our friend how he could have been tragically misled.

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The First American: The Suppressed Story of the People Who Discovered the New World

Church of Darwin, Crypto, Dinosaurs in Literature, Science, Sophistication of Ancestors, The Flood of Noah, Uncategorized | Posted by Chris Parker
Aug 02 2007

 By Christopher Hardaker 

 

In the Movie, Planet of the Apes, Cornelius discovers a talking human baby doll. Cornelius (chimpanzee scientist) knows this talking human doll is going to set “science” on its ear.

Unfortunately for him, he is very naive about how science works. Dr. Zaius, head of the Ministry of Science simply “disappears” the doll. As far as science, was concerned, problem solved!

Of course, that was just a B-grade science fiction movie. But, as Christopher Hardaker chronicles in his book; “The First American: The Suppressed Story of the People Who Discovered the New World”, that’s exactly what happens in the real world of science as well with scientific paradigm priests supported by peer review standing in for Dr. Zaius. And sure, materialists try to crush creationism and creationists–but as this story shows, they will crush even materialists believers if they try to “attack” the scientific consensus by putting forth the wrong kind of evidence.

This story has it all, including of course; Archeological Skullduggery- pun intended. The site was ignored for more than 40 years because it conflicted with the paradigm; evidence was destroyed, and careers were lost. It illustrates graphically, the extreme fallibility of scientific dating systems as archaeologists, finally forced to confront the site and its artifacts after 40 years of suppresson have arrived at three different “scientific” dates for the site–all impossible according to the paradigm.

Dinosaurs in Literature, Art and History?

This site included a fully mineralized artifact (old?) that included representations of human interaction with animals thought by science to have been extinct before man evolved.

This archaeological site destroyed careers, as we chronicled earlier; Virginia Steen-McIntyre, for one, lost a promising archaeological career when she decided not to play along (stick with the consensus) at an associated site; Hueyatlaco. This book vindicates her work and kicks some dirt on those who “reburied” these artifacts.

As Christians, we don’t accept any of the dates mentioned here and we think that there is ample evidence here that it is nearly impossible to do anything but guess on dates even as “young” as 1000 to 5000 years.

In any case, get out the popcorn!

The Discoveries

This is the story of a remarkable art piece discovered in 1959 by an equally remarkable man at the Valsequillo Reservoir outside the city of Puebla, about 75 miles south of Mexico City. Juan Armenta Camacho stunned the world with his discovery of a mineralized elephant pelvis with engravings of elephants, big cats, and other extinct animals.

The engravings had been made when the bone was still fresh, still “green.” Whoever made these engravings actually saw those animals, and probably even ate and prayed to them.

The most amazing critter of them all was smack dab in the middle of the thing. A four-tusked gomphothere, an ancestor of the mastodon, and extinct in the U.S. for over a million years.

But in Central Mexico, these mythical beasts lived among mammoths and mastodons. And humans. This was absolutely amazing.

Other engraved pieces were also found. Nobody in the Americas had ever seen anything like this before. They were all mineralized!

It was totally new in every meaning of the word, except for their age which could be very old.

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Giant Flying Creatures From Las Cruces to San Antonio

Crypto, Dinosaurs in Literature, s8int.com, Science, Uncategorized, Unexplained Artifact | Posted by Chris Parker
Aug 01 2007

Numerous witnessess have reported seeing giant flying creatures with wingspans as wide as 20 to 30 feet. Witnesses were intimidated by the size of the creatures. Descriptions include pterosaur; pteranodon and prehistoric. On the other hand, some of the same witnessess reported copious feathers.

Experts suspect exaggeration or perhaps a sighting of teratorn a huge raptor like bird which along with pterosaurs, were thought to be extinct. If there ar giant flying creatures, why hasn’t anyone seen them? People do report seeing them, but no one really believes them.

 

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