Archive for January, 2007

Sea Monster Photographed in Norwegian Lake?

Crypto, Dinosaurs in Literature, Science, Uncategorized, Unexplained Artifact | Posted by Chris Parker
Jan 27 2007

Is this a Sea Monster? 

“Einar Johannes Sandnes believes he saw a sea monster emerge at SnÃ¥savatnet (Snaasa Lake). What do you believe?

By David Braendeland

Could this actually be a sea monster? The creature that appeared at Snsavatneta stayed around long enough to put a scare into Einar Johannes Sandnes.

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Sea Monsters Don’t Exist;
Are You Going to Believe Science-Or Your Lying Eyes?

Crypto, s8int.com, Science, Uncategorized | Posted by Chris Parker
Jan 23 2007

 

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Black, Brown or White, The Egyptians on the Egyptians… Not that it matters….

Church of Darwin, s8int.com, Science, Sophistication of Ancestors, Uncategorized, Unexplained Artifact | Posted by Chris Parker
Jan 22 2007

 

Here at s8int.com, it often happens that when we’re researching a particular topic, we come across other interesting information or data that we take note of and file away. Maybe a few months later we come across additional information on that filed away data and another area of research comes to the fore.

For some time we’ve been coming across interesting pieces of Egyptian art and we’ve filed those items away. The other day, we came across a White Supremacist site that was trying to make the case that the Egyptians were White or European. This after many times previously having come across Afro-centric websites that were making the case that the Egyptians were Black Africans.

They both can’t be right, but taking pride in the fact that someone living three thousand years ago had the same amount of melanin as you do is a bit like being proud that both yourself and George Washington had male pattern baldness.

A friend of mine mentioned several years ago that they had seen the King Tut traveling exhibition in Los Angeles and that their impression was that King Tut was “European” or at least certainly not Black or African. At the same table was another friend who said the she had seen King Tut in San Francisco, and that she had been surprised to learn that King Tut was Black.

The Egyptians left thousands of works of art behind, many masterpieces of art including thousands of depictions of themselves—so why is the ethnic make-up of the Egyptians still and open question? (All cultures have memories of huge, scaly, reptilian creatures, some who flew -dragons-and dinosaurs were huge, scaly reptilian creatures as well, but the paradigm is such that most people don’t consider for a moment that these extraordianary facts are related)

Back in 1956 when the Cecil B. DeMille’s Ten Commandments came out, Charlton Heston played Moses, Yul Brynner played Ramses II and Anne Baxter played Neferteri, all very well tanned. I believe that some of the “background” Egyptians were Black. If that Movie were being made today who would be cast as leads, we wonder?

As Christians, it doesn’t matter to us what color or race the Egyptians were, but it is still a matter of fact that can probably be established.

When reading the Bible as a child I remember wondering how it was that Moses fit in with the Egyptians? If you recall, Moses was born an Israelite, was placed in a basket in the Nile river and found and eventually raised as a son by Pharaoh’s daughter. After he became a man, he saw an Egyptian abusing Hebrew slaves and killed him. When the crime was discovered, he fled to Midian. Zipporah who later became Moses’ wife readily identified him as an Egyptian (Exodus 2). No doubt he was wearing Egyptian clothing but he apparently looked like an Egyptian as well. Now, I had seen the Ten Commandments and so wondered how Moses could pass as an Egyptian if he was really a Hebrew.

The same thing happened with Joseph in Egypt 400 years earlier. When Joseph’s brothers, who had sold him into slavery came to Egypt many years later during a famine, not only did they not recognize him, they readily accepted him as a high Egyptian official, as did their father when he was subsequently summoned by Joseph. (Genesis 42).

Joseph, of course was a Hebrew, so again I wondered, how did he make such a convincing Egyptian? Maybe the Hebrews and the Egyptians were not dissimilar racially from each other. They were all recent descendants of the eight people on the ark of Noah who are the ancestors of all peoples alive today.

When Cecil B. made the movie, the Ten Commandments, he made a decision to place the Exodus during the 19th dynasty (1295 – 1186 BC) under the assumption that Pharaoh of the exodus was Ramses II (also Ramesses) and that his wife was Queen Neferteri.

On the other hand, many Biblical scholars and notably, Manetho, an Egyptian Priest (c. 300 BC) who wrote a valuable history of Egypt claims that the founder of monotheism, whom he called Osarsiph, assumed the name Moses and led his followers out of Egypt in Pharaoh Akhenaten’s reign. The Bible itself doesn’t name the Pharaoh and of course, the Bible never mentions race.

Akhenaten, first known as Amenhotep IV was married to Nefertiti (not Nerferteri) and ruled Egypt in the 18th Dynasty, (1539 – 1295 BC), several hundred years before Ramses II’s reign, and was the first Egyptian Pharaoh to bring monotheism (one God worship) to Egypt.

What we plan to do is to allow the Egyptians themselves to answer these questions about their racial makeup visually through their own art. Again, we’re only going to look at art which was created by the Egyptians themselves, several thousand years ago.

We would note that sometimes the materials that the Egyptians used (such as marble, stone or gold) obscured characteristics like skin color or hair color. We’ll begin with Akhenaten and his family because we’re somewhat convinced that he was the Pharaoh who brought the plagues on Egypt by defying God through Moses and Aaron. We’ll also look at Egyptian depictions of other royalty and of Egyptian life in general.

We were surprised to find out that it wasn’t really a close question.

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Oiseau-sauriens in France

Crypto, Uncategorized, Unexplained Artifact | Posted by Chris Parker
Jan 22 2007

 

Photo:Rocky Reaches of Plougastel

“If you read French, check out the Jan. 21 regional edition supplement to the Breton newspaper Ouest-France (édition de Plougastel).

In a tiny article, buried among ads for farm equipment, it notes that during the week of Jan. 3, 7 new reports were made of “oiseax-sauriens” to the prefectures of Audierne and Douarnenez (department of Sud-Finistere, commune of Plougastel-Reaumur, municipality of Douarnenez).

I’m 61, and this has been going on all my life. Big, leathery birds with folding wings seen throughout Brittany, scaring peasants, stealing children, frightening motorists.

Of course, a major French newspaper isn’t going to threaten the one industry that keeps Bretons from starving: tourism. These stories are always squelched.

Here’s a sentences or two from the brief article. (translation mine) From the rocky reaches of the Pointe du Raz to the Bay of Douarnenez, new and some more terrifying sighting of oiseaux-sauriens (dinosaur birds) have been reported to both local prefectures in Audierne and Douarnenez as well as to the National Police CRS in Quimper.

At least one roadside crash happened when a startled driver in Plougastel swerved to avoid what he said was a (oiseau-saurien) measuring at least 12 meters from beak to feet and having a wingspan of over 15 meters (fifty feet) combined.

Etc…etc…

Remember the thunderbirds thread? I brought this all up before. Breton “peasants” (paysans—not a negative word in French) are rarely surprised by this. Many would just like the French government to at least pay a little attention and stop dismissing stories as peasant nonsense”.

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Distinctive Ornithocheirid Pterosaur on Mayan Funerary Vase from Dzibanche

Dinosaurs in Literature, s8int.com, Science, Uncategorized, Unexplained Artifact | Posted by Chris Parker
Jan 15 2007

 

In this section, dinosaurs in literature art & history, we believe we’ve proven (at least to the open mind) that “dinosaurs” and man co-existed. We understand that readers will find some of our “proofs” more convincing than others. Pterosaurs are/were a very diverse group of creatures but  we think that the unique look of this particular type will help us make the case for the identification.

The ornithocheirids included the largest flying animals ever, and among other features had a distinctive snout crest that make them readily identifiable. This characteristic also makes it somewhat easier to separate characterizations of these creatures from that of birds such as pelicans.

In addition this Mayan characterization also includes a pronged hindskull. This type of ornithocheirid has been found in South America where the Mayans who created this ancient art lived. This funerary vessel was found in a tomb at Dzibanche.

 

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Female Egyptian Model From the Bersheh Procession..2000 B.C.

s8int.com, Sophistication of Ancestors, Uncategorized | Posted by Chris Parker
Jan 15 2007

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Pyramids Older Than Egyptian Allegedly Found in Ukraine

Science, Sophistication of Ancestors, Uncategorized, Unexplained Artifact | Posted by Chris Parker
Jan 11 2007

MOSNEWS.COM via Shane 

Archaeologists in Ukraine have unearthed the remains of an ancient pyramidal structure that pre-dates those in Egypt by at least 300 years. The stone foundations of the structure, which probably resembled Aztec and Mayan ziggurats in South America, were discovered near the eastern city of Lugansk.

It is thought they were laid about five millennia ago during the early Bronze Age by animists who worshipped a sun god. The “pyramid” is in fact a complex of temples and sacrificial altars topping a sculpted hillside with steps on its sides.

Viktor Klochko, head of the excavation, said the discovery was of international significance. “This is the first monument of its age and kind found in eastern Europe,” he told the Guardian. “It changes our whole conception of the social structure and the level of development of the cattle breeders and farmers who were the direct ancestors of most European peoples.”

There are about 100 pyramids in Egypt, and the remains of Mesopotamian pyramids are preserved in Iraq and Iran. Ziggurats are also found in Mexico, and the Nubians built pyramids as burial sites for monarchs in the Nile valley. But pyramid structures are rare in Europe. One of the few is a Roman-era pyramid near Nice, France, that may have been built by legionnaires involved in an Egyptian cult.

Although graves have been found at the Lugansk site, archaeologists think it was used for sacrifice by burning, rather than as a burial ground. “People lived in the surrounding valleys and climbed up it to carry out their ceremonies,” said Mr Klochko. “They had a pagan cult that bowed down to the sun, as did the ancestors of the Slavs.”

Remains of sacrifice victims, ashes and ceramics have been found at the site, but no jewellery or treasure. The complex, which covered three-quarters of a square mile and was around 60 metres (192ft) high, was probably used for 2,000 years.

“What surprised me most is the scale of this enormous complex,” Stanislav Mogilny, a student working on the excavation, told Russian television. It’s just incredible — a titanic feat.“ 

 

NINE REASONS WHY THE “DAYS” IN GENESIS 1 MUST BE UNDERSTOOD AS NORMAL (24-HOUR) DAYS

Religious, Science, Uncategorized, Unexplained Artifact | Posted by Chris Parker
Jan 04 2007

The Hebrew word yom, translated “day,” is used more than 2,000 times in the Old Testament. In 95% of these cases, the word clearly means a 24-hour day, or the daylight portion of a 24-hour day. Since this is the way the word is most often used in the Old Testament, it should be understood in this way in Genesis 1 unless there are compelling reasons to prefer some other meaning. 

God defines what he means by “day” in Genesis 1: “God called the light ‘day’ and the darkness he called ‘night’ ” (Genesis 1:5).

The terms “evening” and “morning” make it clear that normal days are being referred to in Genesis 1. These terms are used in Genesis 1:5,8,13,19,23,31.

The numerical qualifier (e.g., “second day,” “third day”) demands a 24-hour day. This usage is found in Genesis 1:5,8,13,19,23,31; 2:2,3. The word “day” appears with a number over 200 times in the Old Testament, and in every case the reference is to a literal day.

God established the sun and moon “to separate the day from the night,” “to mark seasons and days and years,” and “to govern the day and the night” (Genesis 1:14-18). These passages clearly refer to normal days.

The Ten Commandments given to Israel were spoken by God himself, and were also written directly by God in stone (Exodus 20:1; 31:18; 32:16). Within these Ten Commandments, God described his work of creating the universe: “For in six days the LORD made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, but he rested on the seventh day. Therefore the LORD blessed the Sabbath day and made it holy” (Exodus 20:11). Since the Sabbath command is linked in this way to the creation week, the “days” of the creation week must be of the same kind as the “day” Israel was expected to rest.

The primary reason some people want to lengthen the “days” of Genesis 1 is to make room for the evolutionary scenario, which requires billions of years. But evolution is simply incompatible with Genesis 1, and stretching the meaning of the word “day” will not accomplish the reconciliation of the creation and evolution worldviews. They are just too different. Consider the following admission by Pattle P. Pun, professor of biology at Wheaton College. (Note: Dr. Pun writes as a theistic evolutionist.)

It is apparent that the most straightforward understanding of the Genesis record, without regard to all the hermeneutical considerations suggested by [evolutionary] science, is that God created heaven and earth in six solar days, that man was created in the sixth day, that death and chaos entered the world after the Fall of Adam and Eve, that all of the fossils were the result of the catastrophic universal deluge which spared only Noah’s family and the animals therewith. (Journal of the American Scientific Affiliation, March 1987, p. 14)

In the New American Standard Bible, Genesis 2:4 says: “This is the account of the heavens and the earth when they were created, in the day that the LORD God made earth and heaven.” Here is an instance where the word “day” does not refer to a 24-hour day. The phrase “in the day that” is a Hebrew idiom meaning “at the time that” or simply “when” (as the phrase is rendered in the New International Version). But this usage does not invalidate our understanding of “day” meaning a 24-hour day (or the light portion thereof) in Genesis 1. In fact, a similar occurrence of this idiom appears in Numbers 7:84 (see NASB margin), which follows twelve literal days of offerings (Numbers 7:12-83).

II Peter 3:8 says, “With the Lord a day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years are like a day.” But this is a simile (a literary device used for comparison) given to help us understand the Lord’s patience, not a hint as to how we should interpret Genesis 1. The word “like” is not the same as an equal sign! Also: the word “day” is unlikely to carry a figurative meaning in Genesis 1 since it appears for the very first time there. Words are used figuratively only after their literal meaning is well established.

(Reference: Impact # 81, “Theistic Evolution and the Day-Age Theory,” by Richard Niessen)

Denial Is Not Just A River In Egypt:
Suppressed Evidence of Human, Dinosaur and Other “Extinct” Fauna Interaction in First Century Roman, Nilotic Art

Church of Darwin, Crypto, Religious, Science, Sophistication of Ancestors, Uncategorized, Unexplained Artifact | Posted by Chris Parker
Jan 01 2007

Photo: Detail from 1st century Roman Mosaic at Pompeii (House of the Physician)

Denial is not just a river in Egypt.  I was reminded of that little witticism this weekend. I left the downtown branch of the public library with a plan to stop by Raul’s for a “super burrito”, a burrito so large that I’ve actually had to take a nap right there under one of Raul’s tables after polishing one off.

I was shocked to discover that Raul’s was no longer there. It had been replaced by a new sushi place.

Raul’s place had replaced a deli restaurant, which had in its turn replaced a pizza shop. I recall that some time ago it had been some kind of smoothie/coffee shop.

Only denial could explain why each new owner believed that his restaurant would succeed where all the others had failed-and why a bank would keep making loans at the location.

“Denial is the refusal to acknowledge the existence or severity of unpleasant external realities or internal thoughts and feelings.”(free Dictionary) Denial is the Lingua Franca of the human race and the state of denial is larger than the State of California.

When it comes to the issue of dinosaur and human co-existence, denial is also of course in operation. On the Christian side, some but not all have chosen to deny that dinosaurs even existed for fear that there existence might somehow discredit the Bible.

Materialists, rationalists, and/or Atheists similarly seek to discredit any evidence that proves or might tend to support the fact that dinosaurs and humans coexisted for fear that such proof might discredit evolutionary theory.

In this article s8int.com will once again, (as we’ve tried to do on more than 50 pages of this section), provide visual evidence that dinosaurs and humans did in fact coexist; this time in the art of the 1st century. In this article we will seek to show that not just dinosaurs but that other fauna said by science to have become extinct millions of years ago were still living up to at least the time of the 1st century A.D.

I was in the library this week poring over literally thousands of pages of early Roman art, including the art of 1st century Pompeii. I spent this time in the library after spending weeks trying to find more copies and higher resolution photos of the pieces being presented here online.

If and when I did find them, in the great majority of cases the representations of the art had been cropped so that the “offending details” had been eliminated. Other companion works were often shown in their entirety and often in higher resolution, but these were not.

Although these art masterpieces should be easy to find—they are not. As you look at the evidence s8int.com presents here, remember that the keepers of the evolutionary paradigm did everything overtly or subtlety possible to keep us from seeing them. That might tend to lend them additional credibility as evidence supporting interaction since there would be no need to surpress or deny information which does not threaten the paradigm.

The Nile Mosaic of Palestrina and the hunting mosaic from the “House of the Physician” are incredible works that should be well known to the public in their entirety, but if in fact they were well known, they would be very controversial with respect to the evolutionary timeline.

What we really wonder about is; with respect to the powers that be who conspire to keep this information out of the public eye, do they themselves manage to maintain the belief that dinosaurs and man never coexisted—or is it just the great unwashed true believers out there who have the pure religion? Is the power of denial really that strong?

What we do know is that whatever we do stumble upon here at s8int.com or whatever anyone else discovers is just the tip of the iceberg.

The Nile is not just a river in Egypt.

The Nile is the longest river in the world, stretching northwards for approximately 4,000 miles from East Africa to the Mediterranean. In addition to Egypt, it flows through the African countries of Sudan, Burundi, Rwanda, DR Congo, Tanzania, Kenya, Uganda, and Ethiopia,. Nilotic art like the first century Nile Mosaic of Palestrina detailed life along the Nile.

The vast Nilotic mosaic (21.3 x 17.3 feet) set into the floor of the apsidal hall adjacent to the sanctuary of Fortuna Primigenia at Praeneste (Palestrina) provides important evidence for what Roman triumphal paintings using topographical conventions may have looked like.

On the mosaic, the Nile winds past vignettes representing exotic landscapes and settlements; the more recondite details are carefully labeled in Greek, underscoring the Alexandrian source of the genre. The precise nature of the relationship between the mosaic and cartographic practices is controversial.

Recently the Palestrina mosaic has been interpreted as an actual topographic map of the Nile: the upper part of the mosaic represents Ethiopia, the upper zone of the lower section represents Egypt, and the foreground represents the Delta, top to bottom understood as south to north, the standard convention for ancient maps.

More likely, however, the mosaic provides a large, coherent landscape composition of the Nile during the flood season, nevertheless dependent on topographical conventions”.( Meyboom )

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