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Bioluminescent Pterosaurs Over Lake Erie-And Elsewhere?

:[ March 10th, 2010

 A witness has filmed anomalous lights over Lake Erie which he says have recently appeared over Lake Erie and have returned to the same area five nights in a row.

He is convinced that the unidentified objects aren’t birds or aircraft due to the way they move and the characteristics of the lights they “emit”. The full story; UfO’s Over lake Erie can be found here.

PRIOR OCCURRENCE: On Monday, December 14, 1998, at 6:30 p.m., a woman witness was outdoors in Avonia, Pennsylvania (population 1,366), a small town 10 miles (16 kilometers) west of Erie, Pa, and about one mile south of Lake Erie, when she saw a UFO. …she was startled to see a bright white light with a tail that appeared to pass directly over her head. The object was moving from north to south, and no sound was apparent.” “The object continued to move to a distance of about 30 feet” from the witness “and stopped directly above the roof of my house. The object then appeared as a solid, real white light, and it was motionless. It then began a pattern of blinking off, then blinking on–at about one-second intervals. I became frightened at that point and ran inside, and that was the last the object was observed.” Stan Gordon ,UFO Hotline

Photo: Right: From the video; Identifying the unidentified? Glowing edges of long tailed pterosaur’s wings and tail–including the species specific tail vane at tail’s end.

We note that the closeup of the lighted outline of one of the flying objects reminds us very much of a pterosaur. Here we provide a graphic indicating how these lights might indicate the outspread wings of such a bio illuminated creature. There have been a number of eyewitness accounts, particularly around the mainland of Papua New Guinea, of bioluminescent flying creatures locally known as ropen or indava.

Clifford Paiva, A physicist, examined video footage of two strange lights that explorers think are bioluminescent pterosaurs, and declared that the glow was not from meteors, lanterns, campfires or an airplane. Paul Nation, of Granbury, Texas, videotaped the lights one night, in November, 2006, in a remote mountainous area of the mainland of Papua New Guinea.

Photo: Left, Standing on the ground, a 3 foot or taller pterosaur could look vaguely “humanoid”. This is the man-bat, seen in Mexico in April 2009–flying abreast of a car and looking in the window. He wasn’t glowing-but he did glower.

Paiva, now a missile defense physicist working in Southern California, found no commonplace explanation for the fourteen seconds of video. Reporting his initial findings to Jonathan Whitcomb, author of “Searching for Ropens,” he also noted that the two glowing forms independently and only slowly changed light intensity; unlike what would be expected in the flickering of a fire, as some had suggested that the lights were. This information comes from a Jonathan Whitcomb press release in Feb. 2007.

Eyewitnesses have reporting glowing figures matching the description in whole or in part of glowing or bioluminescent pterosaur-like creatures since at least the early 1950’s. Self illuminating flying creatures, if they exist could provide the answers to quite a few current mysteries. Number one, why don’t more people see pterosaurs if they exist? Answer: they are nocturnal and give off a bright light that people misidentify as ufo’s or which people simply can’t identify. Secondly, from a distance a lighted object could appear to be oval or saucer shaped giving rise to more accounts of ufo’s.

The bioluminescence could be used for hunting and fishing at night. Many eyewitnesses have seen mysterious lights over water and many witnesses as well have reported bright lights and the absence of sound. Thirdly, consider what a self illuminated pterosaur might look like on the ground. They are bi-pedal and possibly quadrupedal as well. They (pterosaurs) could account for flying men and winged humanoid accounts (by the hundreds over the years) as well.

Photo: This ‘UFO” was photographed over Witchita in 2009. Here we compare it to several long tailed pterosaur drawings. The original story was here.

Superficially, they might be human-like in their stance. Perhaps standing on two strong legs, with two arms, wings tucked they would give rise to descriptions as; “large headed aliens”, “humanlike”, and/or “reptilian”. Many witnesses have described creatures wearing a cape or having tight fitting clothes, and/or with a large backpack or a machine of some kind on their backs. Others clearly saw wings on ocassion. Pterosaurs who emit light and fish in lakes could account for “silent” UFO’s, for triangle shaped UFO’s and for eyewitness accounts of “dripping” lights.

If pterosaurs do still exist, why hasn’t anyone caught one on camera? We show here two that we think were caught on camera in 2009 as well as provide a few eyewitness accounts featuring glowing, pterosaur-like creatures. What’s the deal with pterosaurs, we do talk about them quite a bit? Just more proof that what we’ve been taught and are being taught about our origins and this planet’s past-is frequently untrue.

Flatwoods Monster

In 1952, in Flatwood, West Virginia, 7 people claimed to have seen a 10 foot, green glowing creature with a red face and bulging eyes. A Mrs. May and 6 youths climbed a hill after her children told her that they saw a bright object land there. Gene Lemon, 17 years old reportedly then saw a pair of lighted eyes in a tree. After he shined his flashlight on the creature, he fell over backwards. The object which according to Mrs. May was about four feet wide began to move towards them in a bouncing, floating motion.

Mrs. May also reported an overwhelming burning, smell that made them all sick. She further described the creature as having the “shape of a man, with a red face and bulging eyes“. She also said that it had a “shield” on its back in the shape of the ace of spades. Several armed men returned to find the creature gone but it was said that a sickening sweet odor still remained.

Glowing Creature, February 2006

“One summer a few years ago, myself, my younger sister and a few friends were on a camping trip. We would camp at the same place every year (a small wood surrounded by fields, moors and quarries) and had camped there many times that year with no problems or strange experiences.

This one night of camping, however, was very different from any before or since. It was quite late in the night (around one) and we were sitting around the campfire having a drink and a laugh, when suddenly my sister screamed, “Oh my god!” and pointed into the field next to us.

Everyone else stood up to see what she was pointing at, and right there in the center of the field was this “animal.”

It was white in color and about the same size as a big dog. It had large red eyes and it was glowing very brightly. As I’ve already said, it was late at night in a pitch-black field in the middle of nowhere. We had no torches shining on this thing, and yet it still stood out like a sore thumb. It really did glow.

My friends and I moved toward this thing to try and scare it away because my sister was getting very upset by now. We got to within around 40 feet of this thing and then it moved so fast it was hard to keep up with it. In less than a couple of seconds it ran 30 feet and scaled a 7-foot stone wall, jumping down to the other side. It then ran another 50 feet to the end of the wall and jumped back up onto it and then stood on its hind legs watching us! When it stood like that, it was about the same size as a man and looked rather daunting”….by Ben Hardy, Your True Tales

Glowing Creature-Strange Lights Reported In Pennsylvania, October 4, 2008

Photo: Left, This “creature” was photographed with a cell phone over an Andean lake in 2009. The original story is here.

Two hunters in Elk County, Pennsylvania, encountered something strange which they are still trying to find an explanation for. The two men entered the woods at about 4:45 a.m. It had been raining, and it was very dark. For lighting they had only a “hat light” and a mini mag light.

…….Suddenly about 150-200 yards ahead on the other side of a field, they noticed two very dim glowing lights. The lights were about the size of a baseball and about two feet apart, and estimated to be about 15 feet above the ground. They glowed, “like the indiglo color of a watch.” The two men thought the lights were odd, but considered that maybe there were some hunters ahead. The men shut off their lights. As they walked forward, in the distance toward where they saw the first glowing lights, they now observed what looked like a flashlight beam flashing back and forth between the tree line.

They did not think this was odd, since it was archery season, and there was the possibility that other hunters were in the area. Within minutes of seeing the single light beam, about 10 individual white beams of light suddenly appeared. These light beams which “flashed around,” seemed to originate from one point, and were not moving around as if being carried by someone. The beams appeared to be about 10 feet above the ground, and projected parallel with the ground, and extended straight out from the originating location.

…….. The men were confused as to what they were seeing. Their attention was then drawn to a glowing figure, moving from the area of the beams of light. “It seemed as though one light beam led it to the field.” The glowing human-like form moved about 20 feet out into a grass field. The grass in the area was about six inches tall. The other beams of light suddenly went out.

One witness described the being as similar to “a silhouette of a person just glowing, completely glowing.” The man said the best way to describe what they saw was if someone took glow in the dark paint, and rubbed it on a person’s body. The being was estimated to be about three feet tall, the head may have been a little larger than a human, and the upper part of the body seemed to lean forward.

The arms appeared to hang straight down, and were longer than that of a human. The legs were hard to see, as the glow was blocking out the shape. The color of the glow was described as a light green, lime color. The being seemed to be moving at twice the speed of the two men, who were walking fast. It actually gave the impression that it was gliding, and no sound was heard.

Stan Gordon, Researcher

California Glowing Creature, Feb, 2010

A California witnesses’ attention is drawn to a 3-foot-wide beam of light shining down on the backyard February 27, and then sees a “humanoid” figure, according to testimony from the Mutual UFO Network (MUFON) database.

“The light beam ended up moving towards one of my windows,” the witness stated, “then held there about 3 feet away from it.”

But the witness soon noticed something even odder - “what looked to be a projection on the white flowers on the fruit tree of a head and shoulders of a mottled brown and black reptile humanoid figure.” Examiner.com

Amazing UFO over Kaneohe Marine Airstation, Dec, 2009

Dirk Vander Ploeg, www.ufodigest.com

Witness Frank Abreu had been taking photos at the Kaneohe Airstation in Hawaii. He told UFO Digest;

“I have been getting alot of black orbs and white orbs following the incoming aircraft and out going aircraft from the base, but this was invisible to the naked eye. But somehow my digital camera was able to pick this up.

I have ran a few tests on the image, it is 3D and appears to be silver or metal in color. It is not a bird or any other convential aircraft. Please tell me what you think.”

Here we show Frank’s zoomed image alongsize several drawings of Quetzalcoatlus for comparison. It’s unusual to see a drawing of a pteosaur from this angle but as you can see, a straight-on view with wings on the downbeat provides a similar profile. That original story and additional photos are here:
UFO Digest

“Interestingly enough, Eskin Kuhn, while a Marine at Quantanomo, witnessed two pterosaurs flying side by side in daylight. Mr. Kuhn is an artist and drew very accurate depictions of the pteorsaurs he saw. One of them has wings in downbeat and it appears that were it to be flying directly towards an eyewitness could provide the same profile as the one in Mr. Abreu’s photo.

Large Light Green Luminescent ‘Birds’ Observed Over Hayward, CA
Thursday, March 11, 2010

5 to 7 large, glowing birds in that famous, lime green color over Hayward, California flying at a height of approximately 20 feet;

“I believe it might have been a little more than a year and a half ago. I was outside in my backyard at night when I heard a weird squawking noise, almost like a seagull, but different. I look up at the sky and see a flock of birds flying.

Their wings were straight out, unmoving, and they were flying in a straight line. It was like they were gliding. I could see them well against the dark sky. They were what I can only describe as a light green luminescent color. There was a faint light coming from them, almost like they were glowing.”

Source:Natural Plane Blogspot

Paranormal State - Devil in Jersey Season 4 Episode 12

On the program; Paranormal State; “Devil in Jersy”, the team heads to the Pine Barrens in New Jersey, the “birthplace” of the “jersey devil” and an area where to this day any number of jersey devil sightings are reported every year.

Based on eyewitness descriptions, some, like ourselves have suggested that what most often are being seen are still living pterosaurs. This however is not a ‘believable” or preferred option for these kinds of programs including “MonsterQuest”, which itself turned in another pretty weak “quest” in its Jersey Devil Episode.

Both of these programs like to conduct “scientific” investigations. That’s why they have a FLIR camera, after all. A FLIR is a Thermal Imaging, Night Vision and Infrared Camera System. Consider this; both programs conducting “scientific” investigations spent some time considering the legend of the Jersey Devil in which ‘Mother Leeds” asks that her 13th child be born a devil.

When one of the program experts repeats this tale, certain of the investigators raise their eyebrows in rapt consideration. On the Paranormal State program, the cryptozoologist offers his theory that maybe this 13th child had feral offspring who were still out there bothering good people.

What about the flying part another investigator asks? Crypto guy shrugs.

However, the very first witness that they interview on Paranormal State says and I quote “I told my friends that I just saw a pterodactyl”! This of course was not followed up at all—except to ask how tall it was. (Four to Five feet tall)

The eyewitness says that he was at an intersection at dusk when he saw the creature flying up from some trees. He said that it was very large and had wings like a bat. He went on to say that you could see capillaries or veins through its wings.

He called his friends to say that he had seen a pterodactyl (he didn’t know what else to call it) and then he went and immediately drew it so that he wouldn’t forget it. The drawing is shown here (above right). This whole line of investigation (pterodactyl) was not followed through with or mentioned through the rest of the program as they continued to speculated freely as to what it might be.

One expert claimed that none of the eyewitness accounts matched any known creatures.

Pterosaur!

Hello!

The program did manage to catch something with apparent wings while out on their second night of investigation on their FLIR camera which is also shown here in comparison with a toy pterodactyl. This “FLIR’d” creature also has that telltale green glow but I’m not sure if a night vision green glow counts.

Source:ParanormalState.com
Youtube

See Also: What creature through history and night has that quality of evanescence?
What creature stalks the night with wings that glow by bioluminescence?

Tracking Living (Or Recently Dead) African Pterosaurs

Pteranodon on a Stick: Egyptian “Was” Scepter Creature No Mystery Without Darwinian History

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Fossil Ida- Evolutionists Dare Not Speak Its Name?

:[ March 3rd, 2010

Photo: by Mary Altaffer/AP. Paleontologist Jørn Hurum demonstrates the “Ida dance”; take 1/2 step forward, two steps back and: “Fossil Hands, Fossil Hands”!

We’re beginning to feel just a bit sorry for “Ida” the much bally-hooed fossil that less than a year ago was going to “change everything”. Sure Ida wasn’t actually a human ancestor as a book, a TV special and a Museum of Natural History exhibit claimed (along with a passel of excited evolutionists)–but in all fairness-there are no ancestors to humans. Even those millionaires over at Google were taken in, choosing to worship the creature rather than the Creator. Ida, however wasn’t two OO’s either.

How much dirt can you kick on someone’s grave/burial location? We’ve already dealt with the Ida fallout and how evolutionists were interrupted in the middle of their joyful “take that creationists” dance in our Top 12 Science Stories for Creationists in 2009 posting, but what we did find interesting here is that in ScienceDaily’s continued burying of the fossil, they could not bring themselves to use that famous Ida name in the entire piece; preferring the more scientific name, “Darwinius” only….s8int.com

‘Missing Link’ Fossil Was Not Human Ancestor as Claimed, Anthropologists Say
ScienceDaily (Mar. 3, 2010)

“In an article now available online in the Journal of Human Evolution, four scientists present evidence that the 47-million-year-old Darwinius masillae is not a haplorhine primate like humans, apes and monkeys, as the 2009 research claimed.

…Last spring’s much-publicized article on Darwinius was released in conjunction with a book, a History Channel documentary, and an exhibit in the American Museum of Natural History. At a news conference attended by New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg, the authors unveiled the nearly complete fossil of a nine-month-old female primate that had been found at the site of Messel in Germany.

..They also note that the article on Darwinius published last year in the journal PLoS ONE ignores two decades of published research showing that similar fossils are actually strepsirrhines, the primate group that includes lemurs and lorises.”

“Many lines of evidence indicate that Darwinius has nothing at all to do with human evolution,” says Chris Kirk, associate professor of anthropology at The University of Texas at Austin

ScienceDaily’s Full Article Here

After The Flood; A Graveyard Planet: Fossil Fuels and Facile Fools, False Dates and Phosphates. We Stand on the Shoulders of Those Who Came Before Us –but Also on Their Heads, Backs, Stomachs and Feet! (and etc.)

:[ March 1st, 2010

by Chris Parker Copyright s8int.com January 2010

Prologue

It was the best of times, it was the worst of times, it was the age of the wisdom of man, it was the age of foolishness, it was the epoch of unbelief.

It was the best of times from the standpoint of men (or so they thought) because they were eating and drinking, singing, dancing, partying, getting married and doing anything and everything they wanted. Every evil desire was realized. They acknowledged no master and no God-the way many live today.

It was the worst of times because within a few days every living thing that had the breath of life in it would be dead-except for Noah and the seven righteous people with him-together with the animals they had brought with them on the ark. Much of the creation that God had called good and very good had been destroyed-and the bodies of man and of the animals and the dead vegetation in and out of the seas still litter this planet-if one knows where to look.

Introduction

If you’re fortunate enough to own one of the newer computers with a multi-core processor, perhaps a dual or a quad core chip, congratulations; you are utilizing on a daily basis technology near the summit of man’s technical ability. Some of the newer microchips now use 45 nanometer scale technology that can pack over a billion transistors on a single chip.

It would be common for science to refer to the advancing capability of these wonders of man’s technical prowess as the “evolution” of the micro-chip—but of course, these chips have all been intelligently designed. No one could be convinced that either the microchips that drive computers nor the software that instructs them came about by accident or that they were self created over time-but this is what we are asked to believe about much more complex, intelligently designed artifacts like DNA –and like life itself.

Photo, right:Dude, I’m getting a Dale!

The coded information contained in DNA (the “software” for life) is so dense that an amount that would cover the head of a pin would fill 15,000,000,000,000 (15 trillion) 160 page books. And that information and those complex instructions are crucial for life to exist. If you do have a newer computer, you might be fortunate enough to have a hard drive as large as 500 GB, which would be great!

On the other hand, the brain that you are using to read this blog post —by itself, has a storage capacity greater than all the computers ever made! (Article Here) We are truly “fearfully and wonderfully made! Psalm 139

The objective evidence from astronomy, cosmology, biology and geology verify that the universe and everything in it was created by God. However, science, the media and the educational system continue to barrage us with Materialistic, Atheistic approaches to our origins — which thankfully the majority of the American people continue to reject. According to a recent survey, the majority of us still accept the literal truth of the Bible.

I was struck by a recent Nova program that began by stating unequivocally in stentorian tones that the Great Flood was nothing but a mere myth –perhaps inspired by a huge, regional flood of the Black Sea. Later that night they were no doubt seeking pledges but I had already changed channels. It’s no wonder that Atheists and Materialists refuse to accept the truth of a world-wide flood; at that time in the planet’s past every single non-believer on earth perished.

Photo: The Deluge by Gericault. Click to Zoom

The proof of a world-wide flood is in evidence all around us. 70% of the earth’s surface is covered with water and scientists say that there may be at least 10 oceans of water under the surface of the earth. No other planet in the universe has liquid water. Of the 30% of the earth’s surface not covered by water, 70% of the rock surface is made up of sedimentary rock.

“Sedimentary rocks, by definition, are laid down as sediments by moving fluids, are made up of pieces of rock or other material which existed somewhere else, and were eroded or dissolved and redeposited in their present location.” ..John Morris

“Sedimentary rocks are the second great rock class. Whereas igneous rocks are born hot, sedimentary rocks are born cool at the Earth’s surface, mostly under water.” About.com

Sandstone, is a sedimentary rock made up of organic elements and is used in pavers, floors ,walls and fireplaces to name a few uses. Pure limestone could be more or less white in color. Limestone is a very common sedimentary rock of biochemical origin and is used for building materials, roads, glass making and crushed for use in cement.

At the time of the great flood, everything on dry land that had the breath of life in its nostrils died. What about the flora and fauna (men and creatures) that perished in that huge upheaval? That’s a massive amount of bodies and dead vegetation. What happened to all that organic mass? Is there evidence that some clever CSI could find that would prove how and when they died? And if so, would the evidence support a uniform history of earth with surface and subterranean features developing millimeter by millimeter over billions of years or features indicating a catastrophic history spanning less than 10,000 years?

I believe that the evidence shows that there was a great upheaval only a few thousand years ago—and that the evidence of that massive, catastrophic dying is all around us.

Genesis tells us that at the time of the flood, nearly 100% of all life on earth perished. Science claims that 95% of all life on earth perished during the “Permian Extinction” (the Great Dying) and attributes it to catastrophes like volcanoes or meteorites.

Photo: Our Man Flint. Click Photo for More Info

Of all that lived prior to the flood; we have burned their bodies or their remains (flora and fauna) for thousands of years for fuel. We utilize them in our cars and our machines. Their Detritus in their current forms are used to build houses and walls and streets. The chemicals in their bones are used to fertilize our crops and gardens. Their remains may even be worn around our necks or on our fingers as jewelry.

This planet is a graveyard and the life that existed before the flood is buried or entombed all around us.

We should not be surprised at this. As the Bible tells us; “By the sweat of your brow you will eat your food until you return to the ground, since from it you were taken; for dust you are and to dust you will return.” Gen 3:19

We stand on the shoulders of those who died before the flood, but also on their heads, backs, stomachs and feet-etc…..

From Dust to Dust

If there really was a worldwide flood, why don’t we find more fossils of human beings I’m sometimes asked? If you think about this present world covered by 70% water, you’d actually expect that marine creatures and seaweed would represent the largest biological mass that would be left as evidence from a worldwide flood. Then, from the land the second greatest mass you’d expect would be from the flora; the trees and plants that largely cover the earth. After that, the fauna, with the mass of all of God’s creatures including the insects dwarfing that of humans. Humans should represent a small percent of the total mass of biological remains.

Photo:Belle Toute Lighthouse on one of the Seven Sisters Chalk Cliffs near Sussex, England. Chalk is a sedimentary rock of organic origin.

“Consider the ratios of dead things we find buried in this sedimentary rock: “95% of all fossils are marine invertebrates, particularly shellfish. Of the remaining 5%, 95% are algae and plant fossils (4.74%). 95% of the remaining 0.25% consists of the other invertebrates, including insects (0.2375%). The remaining 0.0125% includes all vertebrates, mostly fish. 95% of the few land vertebrates consist of less than one bone. (For example, only about 1,200 dinosaur skeletons have been found.)” John Morris, the Young Earth, 2001

In this consideration of the pre-flood remains, one important group is missing. In fact, this group actually represents the largest mass of such corpses: microscopic animal life.

Dr. William Buckland, was a fellow of the Royal Society and a former President of the Geological Society of London. He’s mostly famous for his book; “Reliquiae Diluvianae, or Observations on the Organic Remains Contained in Caves, Fissures, and Diluvial Gravel Attesting the Action of a Universal Deluge”. In those days it was still all right for scientists to write stuff like that. Drawing from his work, here is a quote from a scientific article of the time:

“Startling and almost incredible as the assertion may appear to- some, it is none the less a fact, established beyond all question by the aid of the microscope, that some of the most gigantic mountain ranges, such as the mighty Andes, towering into space 25,250 ft, above,, the level of the sea, as also the” massive lime-stone rocks, the sand that covers the boundless deserts and the soil of many widely-extended plains, are principally composed of portions of microscopic animalcules. …..

Dr. Buckland has well said that the remains of such minute animals have added much more to the mass of materials which compose the exterior crust of the globe than the bones of elephants, hippopotami, and whales.”… Strange Freaks Of Nature. Grey River Argus , 1 October 1907

Can you imagine the catastrophe that would cause the remains of these microscopic animals to pile up to a height of 25,000 feet in the case of the Andes Mountains? Buckland found that the silica in these creatures, especially marine corals actually serves as a binding agent in sedimentary rock all over the world.

John Postgate in his book Microbes and Man, 4th Edition, 2000, confirms that the mass of microscopic life has been calculated to be on the order of 5 to 25 times the mass of all other animal life.

The importance of all this is that much of the sedimentary rock on earth is bound together by the bodies of these creatures apparently borne across the planet by water and distributed in alluvial (water borne) deposits.

Now chalk is a soft, white, porous sedimentary rock, and a form of limestone. Science simply says that its primarily made up of calcite, without acknowledging that the source of the calcite is organic.

“Let us again return to the crust of the earth, and inquire in another direction what part minute organization of a different kind has performed in rearing up its massive substance. Let the reader mentally follow the track we shall point out to him, and endeavor, if he can, to estimate the cubic contents of such a mass of solid matter, if he would gain an idea of the importance of microscopic life in the work of creation.

Commencing at Dover, or Beachy Head, follow the course of the North or the South Downs up to their point of junction in the east of Hampshire, where they are joined by another branch of similar downs commencing near Weymouth.

These three chalk ranges enclose an area which includes all the north of Hampshire, and the larger portion of the south of Wiltshire. Yet this is not all. By the Marlborough Downs, by the Ilsey Downs and the Whitehorse Hills, the chalk runs into Oxfordshire, and continues, with some interruptions, through Buckinghamshire, Bedfordshire, and Cambridgeshire into Norfolk. Neither is this all.

The lofty cliffs between Cromer and Huntanton, the Wolds of Lincolnshire and those of Yorkshire, all are chalk. Southward, let the tourist say how much of the Isle of Wight is chalk. Chalk along the coast, chalk in hills, chalk in valleys—chalk forms the lnkpen Beacon, Wilts, a thousand feet above the sea, chalk forms the Needles crumbling into it; all is chalk, nothing but chalk—chalk and flints !

Yet stay—take up a pinch of the white mass, lay a particle of it no bigger than a pin’s head on the field of the microscope, and what a startling spectacle discloses itself! The dust is thick with organized forms. All is shells and corals! The Needles are shells and corals—the Downs are shells and corals! Underneath the thin green turf of the Wolds lie shells and corals. The great Humber rolls over shells and corals. The white walls of England are—shells and corals. Shakespeare’s cliff is shells and corals. The waters which sweep round Margate, Ramsgate, and Dover, white as milk, are full of the remains of shells and corals! A million of shells and corals lie in a cubic inch of chalk!

What inconceivable millions in a hill, and what in the whole range ! And these of the most beautiful forms, all once replete with life! How large a part of England’s southern and western coast is made up of individual beings more minute than a pin’s point! These minute beings—and the idea is still more strange—approach us in our homes. Do we whitewash our ceilings, it is with shells and corals! Shells and corals, it is said, come to us in our London milk ! Shells and corals form the beautiful glazing of a lady’s card, and oftentimes the ornamental covering of her work-boxes or show-books !

The doctor sends us shells and corals in his physic, and the confectioner, as we are told, in his comfits! The microscope, skillfully applied, makes all this plain, and reveals to us in a language appreciable to the eye, though barely capable of being fully comprehended by the mind, how vast a share in the operations of nature the Creator has assigned to beings so infinitely minute”….W. Buckland, The Living Age , Volume 28 The microscope and its Wonders.

Science tries to escape the implication of all this by teaching us that the earth is billions of years old and that these formations were built up minutely through the ages. But how does science explain cliffs thousands of feet high, extended areas of the earth and mountains 25,000 high cemented together and composed of marine shells and coral?

Fossil Graveyards and Caves Full of Bones

By and large, fossils are not something that are being formed today. Certainly not in the profusion in which they have been found in the strata of the earth. To make a fossil, an animal that dies needs not to be eaten by predators or subject to decaying effects of the sun or the wind. They needed to be buried very quickly.

In the Karoo Bone yards or Karoo Supergroup in South Africa, there are an estimated 800 billion mostly vertebrate fossils—largely swamp dwelling reptiles. Composed mainly of sandstones and shales deposited in shallow water, the Karoo can be 20,000 feet thick. The fossil-rich beds stretch out for hundreds of miles.

What kind of catastrophe could cause this kind of devastation and leave behind this many fossils in sandstone and shale, two types or sedimentary rock or organic origin?

Here’s what evolutionists say; “The high degree of articulation of the skeletal remains and the preservation of delicate bones in situ suggest that the animals were either rapidly buried or died in a place protected from weathering and agents of dispersal. Two hypotheses are possible to explain this multitaxon aggregation: trapping in a floodplain gully followed by immediate burial or shelter-sharing. The latter hypothesis is favored after the analysis of the fossil evidence recorded in the South African Karoo Basin…. Fernando Abdalajuan Carlos Cisneros And Roger M.H. Smith2

The authors here considered and discarded a local flood but how could this many fossils be left by a local flood? Some bird fossils have also been found there; why should birds be the victims of local flooding? Evolutionists look for alternative explanations because they have no choice. The global flood explanation is untenable.

Of course, no one in Noah’s time believed in a global flood either.

“….Massive fossil graveyards of dinosaurs still exist in other locations the world over. The Morrison beds in North America, the dinosaur beds in Montana, in the Rocky Mountains, in Alberta, the Dakotas, China, Colorado, Utah, Africa, etc., etc., contain literally millions of dinosaur fossils piled together in tremendous heaps.

Ten thousand Hadrosaurs were found on Egg Mountain, Montana alone, jumbled together in what appears to have been a mass death. The Flood produced the Sicilian hippopotamus beds, the fossils of which are so extensive that they are mined as a source of charcoal; the great mammal beds of the Rockies; the dinosaur beds of the Black Hills and the Rockies, as well as in the Gobi Desert; the fish beds of the Scottish Devonian stratum, the Baltic amber beds, Agate Spring Quarry in Nebraska, and hundreds more”….Evolution Cruncher

A bone bed has been discovered south of Tampa, Florida. Paleontologists say it is one of the richest fossil deposits ever found in the United States. It has yielded the bones of more than 70 species of animals, birds, and aquatic creatures.

About 80% of the bones belong to plains animals, such as camels, horses, mammoths, etc. Bears, wolves, large cats, and a bird with an estimated 30-foot wingspan are also represented. Mixed in with all the land animals are sharks’ teeth, turtle shells, and the bones of fresh and salt water fish. The bones are all smashed and jumbled together, as if by some catastrophe. The big question is how bones from such different ecological niches—plains, forests, and ocean—came together in the same place. … Armstrong, Carol; “Florida Fossils Puzzle the Experts,”

Many fossil graveyards are high up in mountainous areas. In Sicily, for example, four thousand feet above sea level on Mount Etna, there are two caves crammed with the bones of thousands of hippopotamus in each grave. On the island of Malta there are lions, tigers, mammoths, birds, beavers, hippopotamus and foxes all mixed together.

“Back in middle 1940s Dr. Frank C. Hibben, Prof. of Archeology at the University of New Mexico mounted an expedition to Alaska to look for human remains. The remains he found were not human, but what he found was anything but evidence of gradualism or uniformitarianism.

Instead he found miles of muck filled with the remains of mammoth, mastodon, several kinds of bison, horses, wolves, bears and lions. Just north of Fairbanks, Hibbens and his associates watched as bulldozers pushed the half-melted muck into sluice boxes for the extraction of gold.

Animal tusks and bones rolled up in front of the blades “like shavings before a giant plane”. The carcasses were found in all attitudes of death, most of them “pulled apart by some unexplainable prehistoric catastrophic disturbance” (Hibben, 1946).

The evidence of the violence of nature combined with the stench of rotting carcasses was staggering. The ice fields containing these remains stretched for hundred of miles in every direction (Hibben, 1946). Trees and animals, layers of peat and mosses, twisted and mangled together like some giant mixer had jumbled them some 10,000 years ago, and then froze them into a solid mass.”

“The picture in Siberia and northern Europe is no different. Just north of Siberia whole islands are formed of the bones of Pleistocene animals swept northward from the continent into the frigid waters of the Arctic Ocean.

It has been estimated that some ten million animals lay buried along the rivers of northern Siberia. Thousands of tusks formed a massive ivory trade for the master carvers of China, all from the remains of the frozen mammoths and mastodons of Siberia.

The famous Beresovka mammoth first drew attention to the preserving properties of being quick-frozen when buttercups were found in its mouth and undigested food in its stomach. This was no gradual event–it had to be sudden!”.. Atlantisquest.com

    Bones in Caves

A phenomenon that has been seen all over the world particularly in caves located at higher elevations is best explained only by a global flood. Profusions of plants, bones of land, sea and freshwater creatures, carnivores, and prey animals all mixed together violently. A local flood or calamity does not explain the violence evident by the broken bones. In life, that particular collection of creatures would never have shared a location together. The inclusion of bird fossils proves that the calamity was not simply a local one since birds would have been able to escape. Here is an article describing one of these mystery caves.

Heaps of Fossils in a Cave
Scientists Interested in Queer Find Near Philadelphia
Remains of Both Animal and Plant Life Mixed in Strange Confusion- Theories as to Their Origins
New York Times, November 25, 1895

“Within an hours drive of Philadelphia, at Port Kennedy, there has recently been discovered, or rather rediscovered, a cave of unusual interest in the scientific world….The quarry or cave itself is in what is known to geologists as Cambrian limestone (an organic rock)..

The fossils so far unearthed, both plant and animal are in great profusion, but very fragmentary. The plants consist of parts of trees, nuts and seeds. ..Prof. Cope has gone over a large part of the animal fossils and while no complete skeleton has been found, he has been able to identify by the fragments of jawbones, teeth, vertebrae, pieces of limb bone etc. not only a great many individuals, but of a great variety; in fact representatives of the whole mammalian order, excepting marine forms together with some reptiles and birds…Here are teeth and some limb bones of the huge mastodon, bones, jaws and teeth of extinct species of peccary, tapir and deer, immense numbers of bones and teeth of the order Edentata, sloths, (including Megalonyx)

The carnivore are represented by the hyena, bear, ad saber toothed tiger. Machaerodus, horses by remains of Egnus major…Bones of the smaller mammals, rodents etc. are also found in great numbers together with the fragments of a carapace of a tortoise, probably a land tortoise, also some bird bones. All are jumbled together in inextricable confusion—nothing whole, all fragments.”

One hypothesis offered mirrors what is generally given today- that these animals shared the cave over time –or that they all huddled there to escape some local problem. Another hypothesis offered proves that it was a much more innocent time in 1895;

“or that a great flood gathered up animals and carcasses from a wide area, carrying them along with the torrent, breaking them up as they went, until, from some cause, an eddy or suction, they were drawn into the cave.”

Fossil Fuels and Facile Fools*

Here is the official, science approved explanation for fossil fuels like oil and gas. Note how much it seems like a creationist explanation; except for the time scale:

“Fossil fuels or gas fuels are fuels formed by natural resources such as anaerobic decomposition of buried dead organisms. The age of the organisms and their resulting fossil fuels is typically millions of years, and sometimes exceeds 650 million years. These fuels contain a high percentage of carbon and hydrocarbons.

Fossil fuels range from volatile materials with low carbon:hydrogen ratios like methane, to liquid petroleum to nonvolatile materials composed of almost pure carbon, like anthracite coal. Methane can be found in hydrocarbon fields, alone, associated with oil, or in the form of methane clathrates. It is generally accepted that they formed from the fossilized remains of dead plants and animals by exposure to heat and pressure in the Earth’s crust over hundreds of millions of years. …Fossil fuels are non-renewable resources because they take millions of years to form, and reserves are being depleted much faster than new ones are being formed. “ Wikipedia

Creationists know when the vast amount of animal and plant remains became available for this process-after the global flood. It was a catastrophic process that did not take hundreds of millions of years. Oil has been drilled for all over the world for hundreds of years. Can you imagine how many dead creatures and dead plant remains would be needed to make just one barrel of oil?

The Arctic National Wildlife Refuge by itself is estimated to contain up to 16 billion barrels of oil. There is just one time in the history of this planet when trillions of pounds of dead animals and plants were available to produce oil captured in sedimentary rock the world over.

“Most scientists agree that hydrocarbons (oil and natural gas) are of organic origin. A few, however, maintain that some natural gas could have formed deep within the earth, where heat melting the rocks may have generated it inorganically. Nevertheless, the weight of evidence favors an organic origin, most petroleum coming from plants and perhaps also animals, which were buried and fossilized in sedimentary source rocks. The petroleum was then chemically altered into crude oil and gas.

The chemistry of oil provides crucial clues as to its origin. Petroleum is a complex mixture of organic compounds. One such chemical in crude oils is called porphyrin: Petroleum porphyrins … have been identified in a sufficient number of sediments and crude oils to establish a wide distribution of the geochemical fossils.

They are also found in plants and animal blood.”… Answers in Genesis

The biological origin of oil and the proof that millions of years are unnecessary for its formation are made clear by the successful attempts to make fossil fuels from organic ingredients. For instance, It is in fact possible to make oil from algae, although the cost of production can sometimes be quite high, when compared with the cost of conventional oil production. The advantage of oil from algae, of course, is that algae is a renewable resource, making biofuels from algae very close to being carbon neutral, and as the algae grows, it actually contributes in a positive way to the environment, filtering out toxins and generating oxygen….Wisegeek

    Coal

Photo: Ed Conrad’s find. A human (pre-flood?) skull encased in rock asociated with coal formation

(American Chemical Society) Coal formation associated with the mass extinction of over 70% of all Plants and Animals.

“The volcanic eruptions thought responsible for Earth’s largest mass extinction — which killed more than 70 percent of plants and animals 250 million years ago — is still taking lives today. That’s the conclusion of a new study showing, for the first time, that the high silica content of coal in one region of China may be interacting with volatile substances in the coal to cause unusually high rates of lung cancer. The study appears in ACS’ Environmental Science & Technology.

A seam of coal formed 250 million years ago during the worst extinction event on record appears to be responsible for the anomalously high lung cancer death rates among women in the rural Chinese county of Xuan Wei in Yunnan Province.

It’s long been known that the lung cancer mortality rates in the region were the worst in the world among female nonsmokers and some anomaly in the coal had been suspected. Lung cancer mortality in the region is up to 20 times the Chinese average. But it’s only in recent years that scientists have focused in on silica in the form of very fine quartz as the mineral that makes burning the stuff so deadly.”

Coal is itself a sedimentary rock. Coal is similar to oil in that it originally came from living organisms. In the case of coal, though, it is thought that those living organisms were plants. However, as Ed Conrad’s finds in Pennsylvanian coal (including a human skull) show that, humans and animals also played their parts in the formation of coal. It has been estimated that there are over 847 billion tons of proven coal reserves worldwide. This means that there is enough coal to last us over 130 years at current rates of production…World Coal Production

Science claims that the material for the formation of this fossil fuel came from swamps—that is the facile explanation that lets them sleep at night, but the amount and distribution of coal resources in the world testifies to the truth that the animal and plant matter which formed coal were widespread and massive all over the planet.

Humans and animals are carbon based and the fossil fuels have high percentages of carbon. Some speculate that diamonds, the hardest form of carbon, may have organic origins as well.

Phosphates and False Dates

Photo: Nauru is a phosphate rock island, with deposits close to the surface, which allow for simple strip mining operations. This island was a major exporter of phosphate starting in 1907 and it has been left decimated by mining operations. Phosphates source is organic; bones and teeth of dead creatures. Click to zoom

Next to calcium, phosphorus is the most abundant mineral in the body. These two important nutrients work closely together to build strong bones and teeth. About 85% of phosphorus in the body can be found in bones and teeth, but it is also present in cells and tissues throughout the body.

Phosphorus is an important agricultural fertilizer, an essential element in metabolism and the transfer of biological energy, a component of matches, an ingredient in pyrotechnic applications, and besides of considerable scientific interest.

The origin of phosphorus around the world is primarily organic. It comes primarily from the bones and teeth and cells of dead creatures. The carnage after the great flood would have provided the greatest source of phosphorus that could be imagined-but science dates their formation to hundreds of millions of years along with that of associated sedimentary rocks.

Phosphate rock is produced in some 40 countries, but 12 countries account for 92 percent of the world’s production Approximately 144 to 150 million tons of phosphate rock were produced annually between 1995 and 1997. Igneous deposits in Russia, Brazil, and the Republic of South Africa accounted for about 17 million tons of production in 1997. The remaining production (about 133 million tons or 89 percent) was from sedimentary deposits…Better Crops: World Production of Phosphates

    The Official Explanation for Florida Phosphates

“Florida’s phosphate deposits are made mostly of ocean animals. They began to form millions of years ago. At that time most of Florida was under water. About 5-10 million years ago, biological and chemical changes changed phosphate from the ocean to the phosphate like that we mine today. This phosphate deposit is huge. It stretches across the Florida. It also stretches up to the eastern Atlantic coast all the way to the Chesapeake Bay.

People don’t really know how all this phosphate formed, but they have a theory. Many scientists think that this is how it happened. During the geological time called Miocene, ocean water started getting into higher grounds. …There was a lot of life in the ocean, so the ocean was rich in nutrients and phosphate. This water was now at the seal level. Then water started precipitating, and the sediment full of phosphate was left. Florida’s limestone was now full of teeth, bones, and waste of ocean animals. In Miocene land started to come out.

..Many years passed. During the Pleistocene, the ocean levels dropped. Florida’s land was out of the ocean now. When Florida’s land was out of the water, millions of fossilized bones were found in the pits in which we mine phosphate today. The bones of the pre-historic animals from the Pleistocene can be found in the top phosphate layer. Below that we can find the fossils of ocean animals from the Miocene period. Some animal bones we can find are dugong, mastodons, saber tooth tiger, whales, camels, and three toed horses. No dinosaurs, though! Florida land got out of the ocean about 25 million years ago - dinosaurs were extinct 65 million years ago”. …ThinkQuest

Photo: Geologist’s F.S. Holmes book, right “The Phosphate Rock of South Carolina and the Great Carolina Marl Bed”, 1870″ was one of the sources for Watson’s book. Holmes said he found bones of dinosaurs as well as human implements and human bones-including a “giant” human thigh bone. Available Online Here

No dinosaurs? John Allen Watson concerning the adjoining phosphate beds in South Carolina reports finding the bones, of mammals, men and duckbilled dinosaurs in the South Carolina Phosphate deposits. Man, dinosaurs and mammals together: Phophate rocks/bone phosphates of South Carolina : an analysis of their occurrence, origin, importance and instruction for the creation/evolution controversy by John Allen Watson 2001

Here is an early article describing the Florida phosphate beds and will serve to end this section ;

A Wilderness of Bones; Where Elephants, Tigers, and Mastodons Lie Buried; Their Bony Frames Are Now Called Florida Phosphates ..New York Times, March 26 1892

.”..Nearly half of Florida is marked out as a phosphate bed. The phosphate lands begin in the northern tier of counties. Tallahassee, the capital is in the center of a great deposit. In a general way the deposits begin at the mouth of the Apalachicola River and circle around northward and eastward, underlying Tallahassee, Monticello and Live Oak, then running southward, all on the west side of the State, through Ocaia and Barstow, all the way down to Punta Rassa.

… the bone phosphate of lime is nothing more nor less than the decomposed bones, or sometimes the guano of long dead animals and birds, solidified into soft rock…

..Where did so many bones come from? It looks as though at some prehistoric time all the beasts of the field and all the birds of the air and all the leviathans of the deep had gathered for some unknown purpose in the state of Florida, and had been overtaken by some great calamity and left their bones there. Some of the bones are still in large pieces, others wholly intact and so well preserved that their species can be distinguished without difficulty. ..The bones and teeth of elephants…bones of mammoths which must have been carried to Florida in a glacier…the manatee, seacow…immense shark teeth some weighing more than a pound, ..the porpoise, the glyptodont, teeth of horses, tigers and crocodiles..

..Some of the deposits are 25, 30 feet thick and in some others, the bottom has not been found—not all pure bone, but bone and sand. There are similar deposits in many parts of the world.”….A Wilderness of Bones..

It Was People Like You Who Made the Ocean Salty, My Friend

The salts in sea and ocean water are simply dissolved solids and minerals of “everything” in weak solution. Ocean water is a complex combination of dissolved salts and dead biological matter. Science doesn’t completely understand the processes that led to salty oceans and seas but quite naturally believe that it took millions of years. If you are a Christian, you probably don’t believe that the earth has been around for millions of years but science needs numbers like that to try to give time for their theories to work.

Of course, if the world was really as old as science says, the oceans would now be thousands or millions of times saltier than it is today. Sea and ocean water is approximately 220 times saltier than fresh water. Scientists want to know; what is the origin of the sea and of its “salts”? And how does one explain ocean water’s remarkably uniform chemical composition?

“If all the salt in the sea could be extracted and spread evenly over the entire earth it is estimated that it would form a layer more than 500 feet thick-comparable in height to a 40 story office building.”… Why is the Ocean Salty?” By Herbert Swenson

I believe that the answer to the question that non-believers pose about salt water fish during the flood is—there were no salt-water fish before the flood—some fresh water species were able to adapt to salt water.

From whence did this incredible amount of material come? It probably comes from many sources, among them the detritus of people like you, of the dead animals and decaying plant and vegetation on the earth after the great flood.

The Coral Clock

Microscopic coral and shells provide the glue in the form of silicate that acts as the glue or bonding agent for sedimentary rocks the world over. Since coral are marine creatures there worldwide distribution over the entire planet is best explained by a global flood extending to high altitudes.

Dr. T. Wayland Vaughn of the U.S. Geological survey made some interesting discoveries about coral that live in vast colonies. He tested them using various experiments and determined that they were meat eaters exclusively. The living coral is a branched colony of individuals connected together with their soft bodies encased in shells. It’s the limey silicate shells that bond together when the animals die and build up together to create reefs.

At the rate of upward growth he observed in the reefs of the West Indies it would take from 6,531 to 7,620 years for the formation of a reef 160 feet thick in one of the species that he examined. Another he found could build that same reef in 1,800 years and still another in around 1,000 years. Coral supposedly evolved in the Ordovician, between 488 and 443 million years ago.

Taking Mr. Vaughn’s 1923 data and extrapolating it we find that the coral are young earth corals (YEC’s). If the slowest coral reef building species he studied would take 7, 620 years to build a 150 foot thick reef then it could build a reef approximately 20,000 feet high in 1 million years, 60,000 feet high in 3 million years or 200,000 feet high in only 10 million years. The coral say that the earth is less than 10,000 years old.

Conclusion:

Photo: After the Deluge by Francis Danby 1837. Click to enlarge

The evidence of the death and destruction caused by the Global Flood is all around us. Some of those processes continue to this day allowing science to hypothesize that what may be going on a small scale accounts for the planet sized anomalies that we have here discussed.

There have been local floods in the world. Coral continues to grow to this day. Perhaps in certain places, dead vegetation and animal bodies are being transformed into coal or oil. In another rare occurrence somewhere on the globe, perhaps an animal dies and is rapidly buried and on its way to being fossilized. The point is, there is no other explantion other than a worldwide flood to satisfactorily explain the source of so many bones that entire islands can be made of phosphate of bone; entire coastlines of organic based chalk, sandstone or limestone; mountains made of microscopic marine creatures; the immense fossil graveyards throughout the world; the huge oil fields and coal deposits and even the saltiness of the ocean. Most of the dry land of the earth is sedimenatary rock which by definition is deposited by water.

Because every living thing with the breath of life in it persished except for Noah and those with him on the ark, this planet is a graveyard holding the bones of that pre-flood world. Their gravestones are of sandstone, quartz, limestone and chalk.

Epilogue

“No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father. As it was in the days of Noah, so it will be at the coming of the Son of Man. For in the days before the flood, people were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, up to the day Noah entered the ark; and they knew nothing about what would happen until the flood came and took them all away. That is how it will be at the coming of the Son of Man”…Matt 24

*The fool has said in his heart there is no God. Psalm 14:1

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Reclaiming Biblical Jerusalem

:[ February 24th, 2010

The world of archeology is rocked by evidence of King David’s palace unearthed in Jerusalem.

by Rachel Ginsberg

How Jewish is Jerusalem?

You might think that’s a silly question, but in the world of academia, revisionist history and even biblical archaeology, scholars have cast the shadow of doubt over Judaism’s intrinsic connection to Jerusalem.

The Moslem Waqf, the religious authority that administers the Temple Mount — the site of Judaism’s First and Second Temples — has been claiming for years that there was never a temple there. But the idea that Israel is the historic homeland of the Jewish people and Jerusalem its holy capital has been under attack from far more reputable sources in recent decades as well.

For a growing number of academics and intellectuals, King David and his united kingdom of Judah and Israel, which has served for 3,000 years as an integral symbol of the Jewish nation, is simply a piece of fiction. The biblical account of history has been dismissed as unreliable by a cadre of scholars, some of whom have an overtly political agenda, arguing that the traditional account was resurrected by the Zionists to justify dispossessing Palestinian Arabs.

The most outspoken of these is Keith Whitelam of the Copenhagen School which promotes an agenda of “biblical minimalism,” whose best-known work is The Invention of Ancient Israel: The Silencing of Palestinian History. Finkelstein claims that the myth of King David was the creation of a cult of priests trying to create for themselves a glorious history.Even in Israel, this new school has found its voice.

Israel Finkelstein, chairman of Tel Aviv University’s Department of Archaeology, began championing a theory several years ago that the biblical accounts of Jerusalem as the seat of a powerful, unified monarchy under the rule of David and Solomon are essentially false.

The scientific methods for his assumptions, called a “lower dating” which essentially pushes archaeological evidence into a later century and thus erases all evidence of a Davidic monarchy, were laughed off by traditional archaeologists. But his book, The Bible Unearthed, wound up on the New York Times’ best-seller list and he became the darling of a sympathetic media.

He concluded that David and Solomon, if they existed at all, were merely “hill-country chieftains” and Jerusalem a poor, small tribal village. He claims that the myth of King David was the creation of a cult of priests trying to create for themselves a glorious history.

Looking in the Wrong Place

But the debunkers of Jewish biblical history got some bad news recently, when a spunky, dedicated archaeologist began her latest dig. Dr. Eilat Mazar, world authority on Jerusalem’s past, has taken King David out of the pages of the Bible and put him back into living history. Mazar’s latest excavation in the City of David, in the southern shadow of the Temple Mount, has shaken up the archaeological world. For lying undisturbed for over 3,000 years is a massive building which Mazar believes is King David’s palace.

For Mazar, 48, one of the world’s leading authorities on the archaeology of ancient Jerusalem and head archaeologist of the Shalem Center Institute of Archaeology, the discovery was the culmination of years of effort and solid speculation. From the time she was a teenager, she had her nose in archaeology literature, and worked closely with her grandfather, renowned archaeologist Benjamin Mazar, who conducted the southern wall excavations next to the Western Wall.

She holds a doctorate in archaeology from Hebrew University, is author of The Complete Guide to the Temple Mount Excavations, and in the 1970s and ’80s worked on the digs supervised by Yigal Shilo in the City of David. The significant discoveries made then, including a huge wall called the “stepped-stone structure” — which Shilo believed was a retaining wall for David’s royal palace or part of the Jebusite fortress he conquered — ignited Mazar to continue to look for the prize: David’s palace itself.

Some biblical scholars gave up looking for the palace because, according to Mazar, they were looking in the wrong place. Scholars searched for remains of the palace within the walls of the ancient Jebusite city that David conquered and called Ir David (City of David). This city, while heavily fortified with both natural and man-made boundaries, was also very small, just nine acres in size. When no evidence of such a majestic palace as the Bible describes was found there, the next step was to claim that David’s monarchy never really existed.

But Mazar always suspected that the palace was outside the original city, and cites the Bible to prove it. When the Philistines heard that David had been anointed, they went on the attack to apprehend him. This occurred after he conquered the Fortress of Zion, which was the actual nucleus of the city, and built his palace. The Bible says that David heard about it and “descended to the fortress,” (2-Samuel 5:17), implying that he went down from his palace, which was higher up on the mountain than the citadel/city.

Mazar told Aish.com: “I always asked myself: Down from where? It must have been from his palace on top of the hill, outside the original Jebusite city.”

Mazar says she was confident in her assessment of where the palace would be. What she discovered was a section of massive wall running about 100 feet from west to east along the length of the excavation (underneath what until this summer was the Ir David Visitors Center), and ending with a right-angle corner that turns south and implies a very large building.

Scientist, Not Philosopher

Within the dirt fill between the stones were found pottery shards dating to the 11th century BCE, the time when David established his monarchy. Based on biblical text and historic evidence, Mazar assumed that David would have built his palace outside the walls of the fortified but cramped Jebusite city which existed up to 2,000 years before; and in fact, the structure is built on the summit of the mountain, directly on bedrock along the city’s northern edge, with no archaeological layers beneath it — a sign that the structure constituted a new, northward expansion of the city’s northern limit.

“I was shocked at how easy it was to uncover it, and how well-preserved it was, as if it were just waiting 3,000 years for us to find it.” What most amazed Mazar was how close the building is to the surface — just one to two meters underground. “The cynics kept saying, ‘there will be so many layers, so many remnants of other cultures, it’s not worth digging, it’s too far down.’ I was shocked at how easy it was to uncover it, and how well-preserved it was, as if it were just waiting 3,000 years for us to find it,” Mazar said.

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“Primitive Humans” Conquered Sea, Surprising Finds Suggest

:[ February 19th, 2010

Photo: The Professor instructs the other castaways in the art of stone tool making.

Our contention; there never were primitive humans. Neither do we accept the evolutionary timescale suggested here. We note however, that where ever you find human artifacts that they are consistent with intelligence and that the most cherished mythology of the evolution paradigm continues to get knocked down. Might even intelligent people have made use of the technology available to them?….s8int.com

Heather Pringle
for National Geographic Magazine
Published February 17, 2010

It wasn’t supposed to happen like this.

Two years ago a team of U.S. and Greek archaeologists were combing a gorge on the island of Crete (map) in Greece, hoping to find tiny stone tools employed by seafaring people who had plied nearby waters some 11,000 years ago.

Instead, in the midst of the search, Providence College archaeologist Thomas Strasser and his team came across a whopping surprise—a sturdy 5-inch-long (13-centimeter-long) hand ax.

Knapped from a cobble of local quartz stone, the rough-looking tool resembled hand axes discovered in Africa and mainland Europe and used by human ancestors until about 175,000 years ago. This stone tool technology, which could have been useful for smashing bones and cutting flesh, had been relatively static for over a million years.

Crete has been surrounded by vast stretches of sea for some five million years. The discovery of the hand ax suggests that people besides technologically modern humans—possibly Homo heidelbergensis—island-hopped across the Mediterranean tens of thousands of millennia earlier than expected.

Many researchers have hypothesized that the early humans of this time period were not capable of devising boats or navigating across open water. But the new discoveries hint that these human ancestors were capable of much more sophisticated behavior than their relatively simple stone tools would suggest.

“I was flabbergasted,” said Boston University archaeologist and stone-tool expert Curtis Runnels. “The idea of finding tools from this very early time period on Crete was about as believable as finding an iPod in King Tut’s tomb.”

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Forbidden History: Dinosaurs and the Bible One Hour Video

:[ February 19th, 2010

Jeff J. emailed and let me know that the video he and others had been working on; Forbidden History; Dinosaurs and the Bible had been completed and was available on the internet. Thus far I’ve only screened Part 1 (Top left) but it seems to be very well edited and presented. If the video (Part 1) doesn’t play in the window, Click Here or Here.

From Jeff:

“The video is called Forbidden History: Dinosaurs and the Bible. It is 1 hour long (7 shorter Videos). We are giving the video away with our ministry and have posted it on you tube. You can also watch the video at forbidden-history.com/dinosaur-movie.html We hope that the video will be used as a tool to educated people and also evangelize the lost.

Forbidden History: Dinosaurs and the Bible takes you on a journey to discover the evidence that dinosaurs and man have always existed together. You will be shown historical and physical evidence that man and dinosaurs have always existed together.

You will also see evidence that there may even be a few very rare living dinosaurs alive today. You will also learn of the over 30 references to dinosaurs in the historical record of the Bible.

Visit forbidden-history.com for more detailed information on the subject as well.” Jeff J. Forbidden-History.com

From the Video: the quote not the graphic
Photo: Therizinosaur. One of the many types of three-clawed dinosaurs that could be one that explorer Marco Polo could have seen and described.

“Here are found snakes and huge serpents, ten paces in length and ten spans in girth [that is, 50 feet long and 100 inches in girth]. At the fore part, near the head, they have two short legs, each with three claws, as well as eyes larger than a loaf and very glaring.

The jaws are wide enough to swallow a man, the teeth are large and sharp, and their whole appearance is so formidable that neither man, nor any kind of animal can approach them without terror. Others are of smaller size, being eight, six, or five paces long.” Marco Polo

Go to Website or double click on the video to find the other six videos in the series.

Antique Primate (Giant Human) Leg Bone Fossil “290 Million Years Old” on EBAY: Minimum Bid; $2,000,000

:[ February 16th, 2010

I recently heard from Mr. Ed Conrad, a retired Pennsylvania news reporter and long time resident of Shenandoah Penn. an area only a couple of miles away from Mahanoy City, Pennsylvania coal mining operations.

Mr. Conrad’s discoveries were among those that first got me interested in the “ooparts” phenomenon. The items he has found embedded in Carboniferous materials like coal, anthracite and slate are according to modern geology, 290 million to a billion years old. The femur pictured here and now available on EBAY must have come from an individual just over 8 feet tall–and it is a part of the rock!

The objects Mr. Conrad has found near his home over the years have made him a controversial figure on the internet and has made him a marked man. He did receive some early scientific support but because of his finds, his assertions about them and now a scientific report supporting his claims he has been banned from TalkOrigins (an evolution website) and is being ignored by the science establishment.

As I understand Ed’s position, he accepts the current paradigm’s dating system which would mean that man is 300 million to a billion years old. Here at s8int.com, we believe that these types of rocks, including coal, all formed within the last several thousand years. A recent Blog post Here recalled an article from 1876 where miners and scientists watched anthracite coal form in a long pipe inside a coal mine in only four months.

For those of you who want to argue that maybe or definitely it is not human–that doesn’t matter; if it’s a primate bone its still 200 hundred million plus years too early for current evolutionary theory.

Lin Liangtai from Taiwan eventually contacted Mr. Conrad and performed a number of scientific analyses on twenty or more objects.

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A Study on a Carboniferous Human Femur Fossil
Last updated: Feb. 8, 2010
By Lin Liangtai
Abstract

Mr. Ed Conrad, the discoverer of the subject material, has claimed he has found thousands of “fossils” in the Mahanoy City and Shenandoah region of Pennsylvania, USA. Before this study, the author has studied over 20 different specimens of those “fossils” and found they are all animal fossils, including a petrified human calvarium, well preserved down to the microscopic level.

The subject material was still partially embedded in an immense piece of slate in the Carboniferous rock layer when it was first photographed. The author found it was a fossil because it contained Haversian canals, which are found only in animals’ compact bones.

It belonged to a mammal because it possessed plentiful remains of scarlet, round, anucleate and concave cells, which were red blood cells found only in mammals. It is a fossilized human femur bone because it displays the following features: (1) It is nearly straight, round and quite slender; (2) Its maximum length is estimated to be 52 centimeters while its mid-shaft is 3.3 centimeters in diameter; (3) Its mid-shaft diameter is less than 6.36% of its maximum length. Only human femur bones match all above features. The author has searched various fossil records and data banks, but found no other mammals, extinct or extant, possessed a bone that meets all the three features at the same time. So, it was a femur of a Carboniferous mammal with a human calvarium.

Introduction

The author found on the internet a photograph showing an object claimed to be a Carboniferous human femur fossil embedded in slate near Mahanoy City, Pennsylvania. As the discoverer of the object did not present detailed evidences for his claim, the author contacted the discoverer and asked for a specimen of the object in order to examine it in details.

Photo:Right. Annotated femur photo. Click to enlarge.

The discoverer sent one half of the object to the author by post for study (Fig.1-2-2). Before this study, the discoverer has claimed to have discovered thousands of Carboniferous animal –some human–fossils in the same area in the past 28 years (note 1). The author has studied over 20 different specimens of those objects and found they are all animal fossils, including a petrified human calvarium ( Article 1) (note 2), all preserved down to the microscopic level (Fig. 0-1, Fig. 0-2).

Material and Methods

(A) Material found in situ

The object (Fig.1-1-1)was discovered in situ by Mr. Ed Conrad, who had lived in Shenandoah, Pennsylvania, USA for over 30 years. He discovered the subject material over 20 years ago in the suburb of Mahanoy City ( Note 3, Fig. 5-1-3), a few kilometers from Shenandoah, where he lived. When he first discovered the “femur fossil”, it was still partially embedded in a rock, which he claimed had been dumped there by a coal mining company during surface-mining operations.

He took three pictures of the object before removing it from the surrounding rock. A veteran Pennsylvania policeman, who is a polygraph expert, conducted three polygraph examinations on its discoverer and issued three examination reports (Fig.8-4-1, Fig.8-4-2, Note 2).The reports prove the discoverer showed “no deception” when asked if he found the majority of the questioned objects in the Mahanoy City/Shenandoah region (note 4).

The discoverer couldn’t have been confused about the location where he discovered thousands of fossils, as he lived within two miles of the location and passed by the location for thousands of times.

Mr. Ed Conrad advised the author in writing that the object was 17.5 inches long while still embedded in rock.To demonstrate its length, he put a measuring tape and a 16-inch educational model of human femur beside the object before he took the three pictures of the object. According to the geological map published by the Pennsylvania state government, the area around Shenandoah and Mahanoy City is situated on the rock layer of the Carboniferous age.

The Pennsylvania state government’s geological unit also confirmed in writing to the author that fossils discovered in those areas are all 307 (+/- 5) million years old. Figures 1-1-1 to 1-1-4 show the object was partially embedded in the rock. This point was supported by visual examination of the object’s surfaces, as the object’s under-ground surface had turned into black coal while its above-ground surface did not turn into black coal (Figure 1-3-2).

Material received for study:

The specimen received by the author measures 22 centimeter long and 3.3 centimeter in diameter at the mid-shaft (Fig. 5-2-3, Fig. 2-3-5). The author had the specimen that he received from the discoverer cut at the mid-shaft for the specimen’s transverse section by Mr. Liang at the Department of Geology, National Taiwan University. The transverse section was further cut into two equal parts and ground into two thin sections (Fig. 2-4-1), which were then covered with glass slides for viewing under light microscopes. The two thin sections are never stained with chemicals to change their original colors. Later, the specimen was cut again transversely at mid-shaft and another sample was obtained for viewing with Scanning Electron Microscope (SEM). The SEM sample was ground and coated with a thin layer of wax as required for SEM viewing. For orientation purpose, the SEM sample was marked by the author with a felt pen and a diamond-tipped pen. The SEM sample and the two thin sections were variously viewed with a stereomicroscope, a digital microscope, a transmitted-light microscope, and SEM (Hitachi S3400).

Images were captured with a camera (Canon EOS 350D), SEM (Hitachi S3400), or a digital microscope itself. Finally, the specimen was sent to Alberta Research Council (in Canada) for three-dimensional scanning with their Computed-Tomography imaging system. All figures mentioned in this article are displayed and explained in an on-line album at: this location

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“Oh What A Tangled Web We Weave, When At First We Practice to Deceive”–Alleged 165 Million Year Old Spider Looks Just Like 165 Day Old Spider

:[ February 12th, 2010


Genesis 1:24
Then God said, “Let the earth bring forth living creatures after their kind: cattle and creeping things and beasts of the earth after their kind”; and it was so.

If evolutionists had a long list of transitional fossils (or even a short list) that they could point to that proved that the living creatures on this planet were “evolving”, then frequently discovering fossils that obviously were unchanged –though supposedly millions of years old would not be so problematic for them.

We’ve written here about the unchanged “95 million year old octopi”, and the fossil lamprey, allegedly 360 million years old which was identical in every respect to “modern” lampreys, and the alleged 150 million year old squid that was also identical to “modern” squids. So, if we have no transitional fossils and we have a surfeit of ancient bees that were bees and ants that were ants and spiders that were; spiders etc. etc. why would anyone believe that Darwinism is true?


Photo: Gould; saying more stuff “out of context”?

It was famous Darwinist Stephen Jay Gould who said “the lack of transitional fossils is the trade secret of paleontology”.

I have to tell you that evolutionists will do a spit take if you say that there are no transitional fossils–but they become downright upset and angry if you go to the Stephen Jay Gould quote. “You’re quoting him out of context they shout”, (or type), ironically, looking just like angry men have always looked from the time of Adam. (They’re unchanged just like spiders and bees.)

Can you imagine a scenario wherein Gould was not really trying to say that there were not a lot of transitional fossils around and that this information was not something generally known? Maybe he was just quoting the lines from some unknown B Movie?

Colin Patterson, another prominent evolutionist, formerly a senior paleontologist at the British Museum of Natural History and author of the book “Evolution” said the following re: transitional fossils and his understanding of what Gould and some of his associate paleontologists meant by the “lack of transitional fossils”

Photo:Evolution 2nd Edition; Now without transitional fossils! (Previously without transitional fossils).

In a letter to an evolutionist who had complained about the lack of drawings of these whimsical creatures (transitional ones) in Patterson’s book; Evolution, Patterson responded;

“I fully agree with your comments on the lack of direct illustration of evolutionary transitions in my book. If I knew of any, fossil or living, I would certainly have included them. You suggest that an artist should be used to visualise such transformations, but where would he get the information from? I could not, honestly, provide it…

Gradualism is a concept I believe in, not just because of Darwin’s authority, but because my understanding of genetics seems to demand it. Yet Gould and the American Museum people are hard to contradict when they say there are no transitional fossils..”

Indeed they are Colin! (he’s passed on)

Re: the subject at hand; scientists have discovered the very well preserved fossil of a spider which they claim is 165 million years old. Was it some kind of “pre-spider”? Something very primitive in the spider line with you know; stooped shoulders, a prominent forehead and copius hair? We know from years of indoctrination that these are the qualities that make a creature primitive.

Nope! According to the article:

E. gertschi shows all the features of the modern members of the family, found in North America, suggesting it has evolved very little since the Jurassic period, Selden said.

“The scimitar-shaped structure you notice out of the male is so distinctive,” he said. “Looking at modern ones, you think, well, it’s just a dead ringer.”

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Taking Abortion One Step Further In the Name of Science? Founders of British Obstetrics ‘Were Callous Murderers’?

:[ February 10th, 2010

William Hunter and William Smellie commissioned a regular supply of corpses so they could study the physical effects of pregnancy, argues a respected historian

Denis Campbell, health correspondent The Observer, Sunday 7 February 2010

They are giants of medicine, pioneers of the care that women receive during childbirth and were the founding fathers of obstetrics. The names of William Hunter and William Smellie still inspire respect among today’s doctors, more than 250 years since they made their contributions to healthcare. Such were the duo’s reputations as outstanding physicians that the clienteles of their private practices included the rich and famous of mid-18th-century London.

But were they also serial killers? New research published in the Journal of the Royal Society of Medicine (JRSM) claims that they were. A detailed historical study accuses the doctors of soliciting the killing of dozens of women, many in the latter stages of pregnancy, to dissect their corpses.

“Smellie and Hunter were responsible for a series of 18th-century ‘burking’ murders of pregnant women, with a death total greater than the combined murders committed by Burke and Hare and Jack the Ripper,” writes Don Shelton, a historian. “Burking” involved murdering people to order, usually for medical research.

According to Shelton, the two men were between them responsible for the murders of 35-40 pregnant women and their unborn children.

Acting separately, and using henchmen to deliver their supply, they organised a killing spree in London between 1749 and 1755 and, after a period of inactivity enforced by mounting suspicion about the source of their corpses, resumed between 1764 and 1774.

Motivated by ego, personal rivalry and a shared desire to benefit from being acclaimed as the foremost childbirth doctors of their time, Hunter and Smellie sacrificed life after life in their quests to study pregnancy’s physical effects and to develop new techniques, the author says. “Although it sounds absolutely incredible, the circumstantial literary evidence suggests they were most likely competing with each other in experimenting with secret caesarean sections on unconscious, or freshly murdered, victims, with a view to extracting and reviving the babies,” Shelton told the Observer.

Shelton examined the men’s anatomical atlases, containing detailed images of pregnant women who had been opened up, and medical literature and the causes of death in London at the time. Glasgow’s Hunterian museum and gallery is named after Scottish-born Hunter, who in 1762 became physician to Queen Charlotte, wife of George III. He helped her to deliver the future king, George IV.

Smellie, a fellow Scot, is no less distinguished. From Witchcraft to Wisdom, a textbook on the history of obstetric and gynaecological medicine, hails him as “the greatest obstetrician in the history of British obstetrics”. He has also been called “the father of British midwifery”.

Shelton, though, regards the duo as on a par with Burke and Hare, who murdered 17 citizens of Edinburgh in 1827 and 1828, selling their remains to a local anatomist. The London of Hunter and Smellie’s time was unhealthy and semi-anarchic, and early death from disease was widespread, as was grave robbing.

In his JRSM paper, Shelton claims to prove that the rival doctors could not have obtained their supply of corpses by any other means than murder. It was rare for mothers-to-be to die or be murdered soon before they were due to give birth, says the historian. People from poorhouses who died were usually old, unwell or children. Thus the grave robbers of the time could not have fulfilled the obstetricians’ need for such a specific type of female, concludes Shelton.

Each used an assistant to commission killers, he says, naming Dr Colin Mackenzie as Smellie’s accomplice and John Hunter – William’s brother, who was a ­celebrated anatomist – as his helper. Young women from the countryside were apparently favourite targets in a city where plenty of people “disappeared”.

“There is great suspicion about the abundance of undelivered ninth-month corpses procured, dissected and depicted in the anatomical atlases of Smellie and Hunter,” writes Shelton. “The impossibility of supply from random resurrections, taken with a careful analysis of events, and of 18th-century medical literature, shows compelling evidence for burking.”

By 1755 rumours were circulating that the women in Smellie’s journal had been murdered, and associates began pressing him on their origins. “As a result Smellie and Hunter both halted their research, both presumably fearing trial and execution,” although Hunter – who used his links to powerful families to ensure no investigation was ever undertaken – resumed ordering murders, about once a year, in 1764, Shelton adds.

Anthony Kenny, a gynaecologist in London for 40 years until his retirement in 2007, said: “These two guys are my heroes. The idea that they could have been involved in the murder of subjects is absolutely staggering.” Kenny is now the curator of the museum of the Royal College of Obstetricians and Gynaecologists. “They were the first proper obstetricians in the country because of their pioneering work practising what was then still a new branch of medicine.”

While Kenny describes Shelton’s paper as “extremely impressive” in its research, he cannot believe that his heroes were guilty of such terrible crimes. The trade in corpses was very lucrative and probably attracted unsavoury, unscrupulous characters, he pointed out. “And it could be that they didn’t make proper inquiries as to the origins of the bodies, and so may not have known that the women were murdered.”

Ludmilla Jordanova, a professor of modern history at King’s College London who specialises in the history of medicine, says Shelton’s assertion that Hunter and Smellie could not have come across so many dead pregnant women from any other source as “a striking claim. Important research… is revealing the complexities of anatomical activities in 18th-century London. This is an exciting and controversial area of historical investigation, and it invites more meticulous research and judicious research.”

Shelton says his research “turned out to be a bit like a thinking person’s Da Vinci Code, but in this case involving facts, not fiction. Although the conclusion of burking is shocking, to quote Sherlock Holmes, ‘When you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, is the truth.’”

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From Soup to; “Nuts?!” New Research Rejects 80-Year Theory of ‘Primordial Soup’ as the Origin of Life

:[ February 4th, 2010

In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. Genesis 1

Photo: This Primordial Soup is no longer “just right”!

ScienceDaily (Feb. 3, 2010) — “For 80 years it has been accepted that early life began in a ‘primordial soup’ of organic molecules before evolving out of the oceans millions of years later.

Today the ’soup’ theory has been over turned in a pioneering paper in BioEssays which claims it was the Earth’s chemical energy, from hydrothermal vents on the ocean floor, which kick-started early life.”

For 80 years this dumb theory has appeared in virtually every science textbook, has been haughtily repeated in every creation evolution discussion and has been an article of faith in the Materialist’s gospel. Just over a year ago for example Times Online’s Kate Muir wrote basically a love letter about the world’s most famous Atheist, Richard Dawkins, entitled; Richard Dawkin’s Knocks Creationist’s Into the Primordial Soup”. An excerpt:

“The marginalisation of academia is partly self-created by its pomp and obfuscatory language. Dawkins broke out of the ghetto long ago thanks not just to an extraordinary mind, but to a gift for elegant communication and controversy: the English-language version of his recent paean to atheism, The God Delusion, has sold 1.5million copies (it has been translated into 31 other languages).

He is big in airport bookshops. In 1976, when his first book, The Selfish Gene, was published, The New York Times explained the mind-expanding pleasure of his science-lit as “the sort of popular science writing that makes the reader feel like a genius”.

“In these barren, thoughtless times, Dawkins gives people something substantial to chew on. His audience is surprisingly grateful, and also relieved to see someone slapping creationists about and tossing them into the primordial soup, as well as explaining atheism positively.”

Clearly, those who “worship the creature rather than the Creator” (Romans 1) never expected their soup to be spilled by their own congregates–other evolutionary believers. Evolutionists are nothing if not resilient however and will simply adapt the new view in their papers, debates and popularizing science books going forward.

So will they now haughtily decree that life began in hydrothermal vents on the ocean floor as if that was what they had been preaching all along? Not necessarily! On ScienceDaily’s page announcing this twist in the life origin paradigm are links to related articles;

Clay Material May Have Acted As ‘Primordial Womb’ For First Organic Molecules
Diamonds May Have Been Life’s Best Friend On Primordial Earth
Did Comets Contain Key Ingredients For Life On Earth?

Another radical “scientific” theory by Dr Michael Russell of the Scottish Environmental Research Centre in Glasgow, claims that living systems originated from inorganic incubators - small compartments in iron sulphide rocks.

University of Missouri-Columbia researcher Rainer Glaser posits that; life exists on Earth because of a delicate combination of chemical ingredients. Using a theoretical model, Glaser hypothesizes the existence of adenine in interstellar dust clouds. Those same clouds, he thinks may have showered a young Earth with adenine as it began cooling billions of years ago….Physorg.com

Of course, there is Richard’s Dawkin’s preferred alternative; that life on earth was simply “seeded” by Aliens… (youtube video link)

People like Kate Muir, no doubt are excited by the possibilities that this brazen lack of scientific knowledge creates for future articles; “Dawkins Knocks Creationists into Hydrothermal Vents in the Ocean Floor”; Dawkin’s Knocks Creationist’s onto Diamonds” or even “Dawkin’s Knocks Creationists into Alien Spaceship”!

Atheists don’t have any real idea how life began–they are however unshakeable in their belief that God didn’t do it.

The original article on ScienceDaily can be found here.

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